Re: Longevity of Wood. / untreated vs Treated
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Scott I think it has a lot to do with your climate. There are places out west where it is dry and lodge pole pine structures are probably 100 years old- some maybe older. In a wetter climate treated wood or something like cedar or hedge is the hot set up, but I agree with the other guys- use what ya got.
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Re: Longevity of Wood. / untreated vs Treated
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They say that the pilings of the original London Bridge were elm and survived centuries in the muck of the Thames. The old barn wood survived mostly by staying dry.
The London Bridge wood pilings survived by being kept wet and the barn wood by staying dry. Funny how that works. Logs that have been in rivers for hundreds of years are being recovered and processed because they don't rot in that oxygen deficient environment.
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Re: Longevity of Wood. / untreated vs Treated
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I'll be doing the same this this spring making a deer blind. I have some 6' 4X4s that are green-treated. I was wondering how long they would last in the ground? I was thinking of cementing them in the ground. I also have some 2X8 redwood boards I was planning to use for the floor. Someone told me redwood was a natural treated wood and would last longer than most woods.
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Re: Longevity of Wood. / untreated vs Treated
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They say that the pilings of the original London Bridge were elm and survived centuries in the muck of the Thames. The old barn wood survived mostly by staying dry.
The London Bridge wood pilings survived by being kept wet and the barn wood by staying dry. Funny how that works. Logs that have been in rivers for hundreds of years are being recovered and processed because they don't rot in that oxygen deficient environment. I think they've done similar things in the New Orleans area.
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Re: Longevity of Wood. / untreated vs Treated
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One thing to keep in mind, cured lumber cuts a lot harder than green lumber from the lumberyard. Might be a good idea to keep some spare saw blades around.
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Re: Longevity of Wood. / untreated vs Treated
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I'll be doing the same this this spring making a deer blind. I have some 6' 4X4s that are green-treated. I was wondering how long they would last in the ground? I was thinking of cementing them in the ground. I also have some 2X8 redwood boards I was planning to use for the floor. Someone told me redwood was a natural treated wood and would last longer than most woods. Cement around green treat I've been told rots the wood. I have a couple posts GT in cement 20 years they haven't rotted....so ise' don't know? If it takes at least 20 years, that's OK. I'll be dead before then. What Bernie said was interesting..........
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Re: Longevity of Wood. / untreated vs Treated
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I suppose this would be frowned on these days, but my dad always dumped used motor oil into a barrel and filled the barrel with wood, usually 6-7 foot posts. When you really jam the posts in there, the oil comes way up and soaks into the bottom half of the posts, he did this with pine and fir mostly and the stuff lasts forever when you put it in the ground. I'm going to do just that Bernie...I've read about that before. Thanks for reminding me.
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Re: Longevity of Wood. / untreated vs Treated
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I suppose this would be frowned on these days, but my dad always dumped used motor oil into a barrel and filled the barrel with wood, usually 6-7 foot posts. When you really jam the posts in there, the oil comes way up and soaks into the bottom half of the posts, he did this with pine and fir mostly and the stuff lasts forever when you put it in the ground. I'm going to do just that Bernie...I've read about that before. Thanks for reminding me. He had a barrel for years and years. Each time he changed the oil it went in there and when he pulled a few posts out to use them, he just added more.
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Re: Longevity of Wood. / untreated vs Treated
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I suppose this would be frowned on these days, but my dad always dumped used motor oil into a barrel and filled the barrel with wood, usually 6-7 foot posts. When you really jam the posts in there, the oil comes way up and soaks into the bottom half of the posts, he did this with pine and fir mostly and the stuff lasts forever when you put it in the ground. I'm going to do just that Bernie...I've read about that before. Thanks for reminding me. ...I have 3 hunting 30+ yr. Old kids and 8 Grandkids I hope to pass memories on to. And next year my Dad will be 84 and might still want to hunt. So there's reasons to build things that last
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Re: Longevity of Wood. / untreated vs Treated
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For what it is worth, I used green treated 4x4's on a stand I built in 1998 and just tore down. The posts are fine and were re-used. I have 10 enclosed, elevated stands and by far the most maintenance free ones were framed in wood and sheeted with old used roofing tin of various types. You can insulate them with Styrofoam too as I have done on most. For what it is worth, I have found that for a SINGLE hunter 5x5 is the ideal size and from an office chair you can turn without needing to move the chair and shoot out of any window. My windows are nothing more than plexi-glass held in place by a 1x1 wood strip and the windows slide side to side. If you want pictures or a better description let me know. Also, I have 2 that need to be rebuilt this summer and I plan to put the Big Buddy heater BELOW the floor. The floor is always the coldest part and I hold to solve this.
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