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And I say it's a stupid law that won't allow him to go retrieve his deer, in fact if it were in Iowa he is required, by law, to follow that blood trail until he finds and recovers the deer (or any other game or furbearing animals). You can not take your gun on private ground without permission, but you must make every attempt to retrieve it.
RETRIEVAL & WASTE OF GAME While taking or attempting to take game or furbearing animals, you cannot abandon the injured animal without making a reasonable effort to retrieve it from the field. You cannot leave a usable portion of the game or furbearing animal in the field. “Usable portion” in this instance means the following: 1) for game, that part of an animal that is customarily processed for consumption; and 2) for furbearing animals, the fur or hide of the animal.
I believe the law in Georgia is you have to obtain landowner permission. Hence the reason it’s always good to know your neighbors and learn how to drop a deer. Heart and lungs ain’t always the best way to go.
Fatally hit deer yes. High shoulder or neck, no. No one is doubting the shot, but if he doesn’t have 100-150yds of distance between his property and the line then you aim to drop. Especially after dealing with LEO’s the first time.
Fatally hit deer yes. High shoulder or neck, no. No one is doubting the shot, but if he doesn’t have 100-150yds of distance between his property and the line then you aim to drop. Especially after dealing with LEO’s the first time.
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Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer
[Re: white marlin]
#7724598 11/22/2209:55 PM11/22/2209:55 PM
Catch22, Most folks can record good quality video with their cell phones.
I can only speak to Georgia DNR about left or right trending. Here the agency's LE is a separate division and there is no left leaning whatsoever by DNR LE officers. All I know are so conservative they could've spoke at the Republican National Convention.
The wildlife resources division of Ga DNR includes biologists and many of the younger & newer ones are so far left that they would make Biden look conservative.
I thjnk a lot of people would be shocked at the political views of the average game warden. At least in Georgia. Leans right is an understatement. Probably more libertarian than one would expect a LE officer to be.
"Catch for us the foxes, the little foxes that ruin the vineyards, our vineyards that are in bloom." Song of Solomon 2:15
And for what it’s worth before i became a cop then a game warden I had a lot of interactions with them in different circumstances. Oddly enough, one bad interaction with a local cop and a somewhat bad interaction with a game warden actually helped lead me into law enforcement.
That said, I have chewed a few folks rear end out myself but they needed it. It solved the problem too
Last edited by JBR; 11/27/2210:47 PM.
"Catch for us the foxes, the little foxes that ruin the vineyards, our vineyards that are in bloom." Song of Solomon 2:15
Re: Dealing with crupt Conservation Officer
[Re: JBR]
#7728949 11/28/2210:42 AM11/28/2210:42 AM
So we now have laws created by politically biased politicians and being enforced by politically leaning or biased LEOs and COs? Objectivity does not stand a chance in a game like that. We now have public servants that don't enforce the law or what is right but what "they" believe" to be right.
A solar farm has leases this property for 99 years so this is his last year to hunt it. He took his 7 year old out and and he shot a nice 4 point that was very close to being 8" spikes. He was estadicly happy. Dropped him on the spot with a 8.5" 300 blackout. The same day my cousin shot a 12 point. A nice buck but not something he would have normally shot. It takes in the 160s to get him to pull the trigger normally.
He shot that one at the base of the head at 330 yards. Was going to be sure it didn't make it to the property line.
Turned our to be a good season considering he has only hunted 3 times since he is currently out if his house with the divorce drama.
Sadly there is the jealous Scum of a warden still working the district. To bad the good ones dont him off but look the other way.
One of my absolute best friends is a retired game warden. I have learned a lot from him. Here are some things he has told me.
1. Game wardens can legally lie to you. That's right, LIE. But you cannot legally. 2. Game wardens will ask you the same question over and over and over. Answer the question once. That is all that is required. 3. Ask the officer what you can help him/her with. If he/she does not give you any answer, tell him you are busy or have an obligation you have to get to and you are leaving. And Have a nice day.
Conversations with GW/LE officers never end well when they are fishing for information and trying to get you to voluntarily give info. They will twist and wring the information out of you and use it against you in the conversation. Short answers with no detail are the order. If you give detail they will pull the "well you just said....." response. Show them the necessary paperwork on request but talk as absolute little as possible, no matter the question. If you have already answered that question, remind the officer that you have already answered that question and expound no more on that subject, period.
My last two interactions with game wardens in NC have been less than stellar. When I see them coming, I paint LIAR in red lipstick on their forehead.
Their are a lot of good game wardens out there. Most all are good. Just remember they are doing their job as they have been trained. They are trained it is ok to lie. Sad but true. Answer all questions once and once only. Be legal in all you do and end the interrogation as soon as possible. Video record the interaction with your phone. That is legal and they can say or do nothing about it.
Again, no lengthy conversation goes well with GW/LE. Silence is the word. And NEVER let them speak to your children, EVER. And tell your kids to keep their mouths shut no matter what.
All this said, I had a FANTASTIC interaction with a game warden in WY in October of last year. A fine man who was actually from NC. No hassle and actually helped us quite bit.
How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?