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Re: knife sharpener [Re: ~ADC~] #7726569
11/25/22 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
https://www.walmart.com/ip/AccuSharp-Knife-and-Tool-Sharpener-070C/44759753 - 10 bucks at Walmart. Put's a ridiculously sharp edge on any knife I have ever tried. Try it. Only this brand, no others work as well. Lay the knife on it's back with the blade hanging out towards you over the edge of the counter and run the tool down the blade with good pressure. I use it for all my hunting, fillet, skinning, pocket, butchering and kitchen knives.

I use the yellow one sold at wm ..is the white one different?


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Re: knife sharpener [Re: ~ADC~] #7726571
11/25/22 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
https://www.walmart.com/ip/AccuSharp-Knife-and-Tool-Sharpener-070C/44759753 - 10 bucks at Walmart. Put's a ridiculously sharp edge on any knife I have ever tried. Try it. Only this brand, no others work as well. Lay the knife on it's back with the blade hanging out towards you over the edge of the counter and run the tool down the blade with good pressure. I use it for all my hunting, fillet, skinning, pocket, butchering and kitchen knives.


Those things are great for starting a knife (I use one) but you'll never get a knife truly sharp with anything like that. Start out with that and then touch it up with a steel. Or get a quality knife sharpener like the work sharp.

By a good steel I mean one like this: https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/...ZhzMEJLxf7-zlgD5c0-qS_N9IEhoC1JoQAvD_BwE

Last edited by BernieB.; 11/25/22 09:47 AM.
Re: knife sharpener [Re: coop] #7726609
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if you have a good edge to start with you can go a long time with just a diamond steel
eventually you want to take more metal off to reset the secondary bevel that is where the electrics are really handy

although you can use a very fine belt and keep up on the edge also with the eclectic

I like the Dexter https://www.amazon.com/Dexter-Outdo...mond+steel&qid=1669386598&sr=8-5


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Re: knife sharpener [Re: coop] #7726625
11/25/22 11:18 AM
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For a stone, hone, or steel always go diamond. Some blades are very hard steel so take a long time on anything else but diamond. Plus diamond does a great job on everything. I hone broadheads on diamonds to get them sticky sharp. They cut with no feeling and very little pressure - I have nicked myself. Test with a rubber band - barely touch it and it cuts.

I don’t really care for the accusharp type carbide sharpeners. But maybe I have not given them enough chance or don’t use them correctly.

The Ken onion belt sharpener interests me, but I don’t want to grind away too much blade. Would like to see one in person.


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Re: knife sharpener [Re: Willy Firewood] #7726637
11/25/22 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Willy Firewood
For a stone, hone, or steel always go diamond. Some blades are very hard steel so take a long time on anything else but diamond. Plus diamond does a great job on everything. I hone broadheads on diamonds to get them sticky sharp. They cut with no feeling and very little pressure - I have nicked myself. Test with a rubber band - barely touch it and it cuts.

I don’t really care for the accusharp type carbide sharpeners. But maybe I have not given them enough chance or don’t use them correctly.

The Ken onion belt sharpener interests me, but I don’t want to grind away too much blade. Would like to see one in person.


it has everything to do with how coarse of a grit and speed you use
you can hone with a canvas belt & jewelers rouge and not take anything off hardly or you can hit it with a 150 or 80 grit and pull some serious metal like when forming a new tip on a knife with a broken tip

once I get an edge established at my angle I almost never go lower than 320 grit and likely a well used 320 at that there are some good videos out there where they get really good close ups of the blade and how the bur rolls as you take metal off


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Re: knife sharpener [Re: BernieB.] #7726690
11/25/22 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
Originally Posted by ~ADC~
https://www.walmart.com/ip/AccuSharp-Knife-and-Tool-Sharpener-070C/44759753 - 10 bucks at Walmart. Put's a ridiculously sharp edge on any knife I have ever tried. Try it. Only this brand, no others work as well. Lay the knife on it's back with the blade hanging out towards you over the edge of the counter and run the tool down the blade with good pressure. I use it for all my hunting, fillet, skinning, pocket, butchering and kitchen knives.


Those things are great for starting a knife (I use one) but you'll never get a knife truly sharp with anything like that. Start out with that and then touch it up with a steel. Or get a quality knife sharpener like the work sharp.

By a good steel I mean one like this: https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/...ZhzMEJLxf7-zlgD5c0-qS_N9IEhoC1JoQAvD_BwE

I have an F.Dick steel that's 100 years old.Still works great.


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Re: knife sharpener [Re: coop] #7726756
11/25/22 03:29 PM
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That is interesting, I have seen guys sharpen a blade on many things including cardboard.

What about friction caused heat changing the temper right at the thinnest part - the cutting edge?


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Re: knife sharpener [Re: coop] #7726758
11/25/22 03:30 PM
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Upstate - That is quite a claim!
It is surprising that it works at all at that age.


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Re: knife sharpener [Re: coop] #7726763
11/25/22 03:34 PM
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I use a wetwheel to thin blades-no damage from heat that way-then finish with med then fine handstones and strop.You can get a polished edge on a good kinfe-like a scalpel-with extremely fine waterstones,but that is not really necessary,but makes for effortless cleanskinning.
Heat from any kind of grinder can wreck the temper like you said especially at the thinnest part,causing the edge to not hold.

Developing and maintaining a good sharp edge on a knife is pretty straightforward.
First raise a burr with a good stone,then reduce the burr with finer stones,then remove the burr with a strop.
Many knives have too thick a blade,making it tougher to get a good edge for skinning.
I use the wetstone to thin the blade,it makes the subsequent sharpenings quicker,and you can hone at 15-20 degrees.

Last edited by Boco; 11/25/22 04:09 PM.

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