Are the Feds still attempting to delist Great Lakes Wolves or has the entire thing hit a standstill? It's been almost a year since relisting and I haven't heard anything.

Probably dead in the Water

I guess they don't follow the Science

I would call a year with no activity a standstill. At least we have our state agencies working hard, advocating for science based management, putting all kinds of pressure on the Feds. Right?

I was hoping WI would be the state to add pressure but it looks like everyone is content to sit on their hands.

Well we knew it wouldn't be the MNDNR applying the pressure, even though we have the strongest biological case for some management action.

at this point I don't even think I would complain if the WI DNR just hired a few trappers to thin them down and donated all the hides to the tribes

as dumb as that would be it would waste less money and take more wolves than the constant court battle

As long as we have our current governor and his cronies, It'll never go through even if it passes by the feds.

hey can the tribes take wolves?

anyone 1/8th or better here I bet people would pay a bounty to have you trap them out of their hunting areas

I don't think an indian would ever kill a wolf.

Donner, Democrat president, Democrat governor.

You knew the answer before you asked the question.

In MN the tribes have no interest in harvesting wolves.

I was holding out hope an actual biologists still worked for the state and feds.

They have actual biologists, but that doesn't mean they are pro hunting anything. When I was a wildlife management major 20 years ago, over half thr people in my classes were anti everything.

Truth there

Really don’t matter what the DNR biologists want, if the governor tells them to sit down that’s what they have to do.

I would never agree to that, and I would push everybody I know to make a comment against that too. I have all the respect in the world for native americans but they dont just get to get all the wolf hides just because. I want the wolf hides, and know plenty of others that do too. The states that have granted different privileges to take any game differently than you and me, its always been an issue. Tax dollars for a license to do something that feeds a persons family, just to let another group use whatever it wants to take the resources is just blasphemy. Conservation either matters or it doesnt, no in betweens, or settling. I made a comment for trapping only management, no hunting.

I find that hard to believe.
they have to be feeling the squeeze same as other people in the same areas , significantly fewer deer and wolf tracks everywhere .

to be clear I absolutely disagree with my own suggestion on principal.
However
This can be a fight for the next 40 years tossing billions of dollars at legislators and lawyers to get nothing till we are all dead or nearly so or some other solution could be offered like the one I offered.

so if we could keep deer, habitat and and keep wolves down with some less than ideal , less than right , "temporary" option it is worth considering.

We will see where things go when the new WI wolf plan gets finalized. I think that there will be a movement from the feds to the state or states to manage the wolves. The fact that there no longer is a "numerical goal or number" helps turn this from preservation to management. Larger populations won't suffer from extinction and they need more management as human/wolf occurances will be higher and will need addressing. I doubt the harvest levesl or permit numbers will be as high as many hope they would be but a sustained harvest over time say 5-10 years will help get higher accuracy on the actual number, where the depredations are the highest and how best to manage the seasons etc. One thing I do hope they change is to allow leathal dispatch of depredation wolves or packs. Moving proven depredation canines around to other areas just moves a problem wolf to another region.

Bryce

An individual native might kill a wolf but the tribes are against it. They feel the wolf is sacred

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/22/us/wolf-hunts-native-tribes-wisconsin-cec/index.html

It's the same thing over here.