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Distance between marten sets #7733085
12/02/22 10:51 PM
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The habitat stays consistent, 1 trap every mile, half mile? Quarter mile? Interested in this

Re: Distance between marten sets [Re: Trapper.38] #7733092
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Depending on if you have the tracks, you can set one or two every 1/4 mile. No penalty for oversetting a hotspot as well, might pay off and catch multiples.

Re: Distance between marten sets [Re: Trapper.38] #7733098
12/02/22 11:00 PM
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I have fisher and weasel where I trap. I set locations about every 0.5 - 1.0 mile. At very good locations I set two traps. We must use lynx boxes in Maine.

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Re: Distance between marten sets [Re: Trapper.38] #7733113
12/02/22 11:12 PM
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Not really that simple. There are a host of reasons to help determine how far apart sets are. How much sign there is. Terrain. Open areas between forest. Waterways. Sometimes temps can effect where they are.
Generally there will be more marten to catch early and less later.

Re: Distance between marten sets [Re: Trapper.38] #7733115
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If you are trapping the core marten habitat (a large untrapped refugia) and not the dispersal routes-keep your traps farther apart(about a mile) to exclude some adult females.

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Re: Distance between marten sets [Re: Boco] #7733120
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Ok great, that’s what I’ll do. Maybe every half mile or so. I really only have bait for about every half mile so it works better anyways. Don’t live in a beaver rich area unfortunately.

Re: Distance between marten sets [Re: Trapper.38] #7733124
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I am far from an expert but when we ran in our "core" marten country we tried to set every 1/4 mile on sign and pull after 3 days.


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Re: Distance between marten sets [Re: Trapper.38] #7733137
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You can carpet bomb them but keep a close eye on the ratios and you may have to quit earlier when you whack too many adult females.
I realize its different in other places but I try to set dispersal routs,like timbered drainages that connect larger core marten habitat which I normally leave as a refugia.
I will set up the large core refugias every few years,when juvenile pops are high,but when I do I keep a close eye on the overall ratios and keep the boxes farther apart.

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Re: Distance between marten sets [Re: yukonjeff] #7733156
12/03/22 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by yukonjeff
Depending on if you have the tracks, you can set one or two every 1/4 mile. No penalty for oversetting a hotspot as well, might pay off and catch multiples.

This,
and especially set on tracks, even if you have to look around a few minutes for a good location.


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Re: Distance between marten sets [Re: Trapper.38] #7733211
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Do you expect to be able to trap this place for several years? If so then "farming" your marten as Boco suggests MIGHT allow you to make decent catches for those years. If you only expect to get 1 year at it then you might consider getting what you can this year.
Your other thread says this is untrapped country. That doesn't always mean there will be good marten numbers there.

Re: Distance between marten sets [Re: Trapper.38] #7733218
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Every half mile is what I have done. Are you in Cascades? A lot of the good marten habitat is tied up in wilderness in the eastern part of state. It’s tough to have much of a line where you can run a loop. The Cascades would be nicer for access and efficiency.

Re: Distance between marten sets [Re: RockCrick] #7733226
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I’m in the eaglecaps on the east side. Wilderness stuff, they are keeping a road plowed this winter though that they never have in the past because of a tree thinning project so I lucked out.

Re: Distance between marten sets [Re: Trapper.38] #7733228
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Got a feeling I know where you’re at. Don’t bother setting until you get about halfway to the end of the road. PM if you need some pointers.

Re: Distance between marten sets [Re: Trapper.38] #7733531
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If they have brush or log piles from thinnings that have been there for a while be sure to check those out for tracks. Stay safe.


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Re: Distance between marten sets [Re: Trapper.38] #7733604
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Double set ....just for the squirrel captures plugging sets

Re: Distance between marten sets [Re: Trapper.38] #7733640
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My recommendation is to space marten set’s ½ mile apart within suitable habitat. Suitable habitat being relatively dense overhead tree cover and shrubs with “coarse woody debris” (downed logs, stumps, snags, litter) which provides protective cover for both marten and their primary prey. As "Boco" suggested, watch your harvest ratios of males to females and number of juveniles. A harvest of 1.5 males or more per female indicates a safe harvest. But, when ratios are nearly one to one some over harvesting has most likely occurred. Your catch should also consist of 6 or more juveniles per adult female.

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