Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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11/28/22 05:47 PM
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At a dead feral hog here in SE Georgia you will NOT even find a coyote track. Heck buzzards don't even eat em. That's what I have seen here. Stack them up and nothing touches them.
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
[Re: TEJAS]
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11/28/22 10:29 PM
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I have noticed that coyotes seem to shy away from hogs here in Central Texas. But they love deer and jackrabbits. Different dogs with different tastes.
The point is to take what Tejas is doing and see if it might work in your area. Maybe different animal at the bait sight. Maybe smaller, maybe bigger bait pile. Adjust it to your trapping area and your target species. It is similar to way the Canadians have been doing for years with snares around bait sights. Tejas adapted it and made it work in South Texas.
Remember that this is control work, not fur trapping. This is population reduction so his livestock and wildlife has a chance survive. In South Texas, if you don’t control the coyotes, your livestock and wildlife will suffer in a big way.
I applaud Tejas for putting this information out so we can all learn from it. Thanks Tejas!
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
[Re: TEJAS]
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11/29/22 07:06 AM
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If those aren’t “local” coyotes then that bait has some serious drawing power, unless you’re baiting the edge of the property. I am confident in saying most are not locals. I know this from the constant recon on the site. The bait is nowhere near the perimeter. The last thing I want is a coyote popping in to get a snack, and right back out to a safe zone. Some do exactly that regardless of where the station is. Those are usually the ones that survive the longest. My goal is to keep them on the ranch until it is their final resting place. The bait has serious drawing power on its own merit, but there are several other factors that really boost activity at the station. Some of those things are within your control, and some are not.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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11/29/22 08:33 AM
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Why are you not snaring them as they enter the ranch?
You would still be using your bait station to draw them, but reducing the risk of them killing deer on the ranch. Good Question PD.The reason I don’t is because we have a huge population of javelina. Thirty of forty head might pass through a single crawl twice a day before the first coyote goes under. Then you have the feral pigs to deal with as well. In this particular situation it is much more efficient to use footholds and stay well away from the perimeter.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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11/29/22 09:26 AM
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You have a good gig going there, if they will pay you for feeding coyotes for 6 weeks. The ranches I trap usually want 10 days to 3 weeks depending on the size of the ranch. As you know, this is not contract trapping Palo. Baiting coyotes allows me to kill a lot more of them in the end. That works for the ranch owner. We take a good number of deer every season. That leaves us with a surplus of carcasses. I put that surplus to good use and kill coyotes. I’ll set the bait when time permits. Most here would agree, anyone that gets to trap coyotes has a good gig.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
[Re: TEJAS]
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11/29/22 07:00 PM
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Even with knocking the coyotes down you have a serious number of coyotes. Here in this timber country, where there is very minimal trapping for them, and the only ones shot are the rare targets of opportunity that deer hunters and random people shoot, you never see that concentration of coyotes. Even on big baits like you are putting out. Wolf trappers put out big baits like that, and the coyotes hit them a lot more than wolves, but I've never seen them hit them in those numbers.
Now get into the breaks and open country and the coyote densities will be higher, but I've not known anyone to put out big baits in that type of country to know what kind of responses they get. Bearcat, you think there would be a point of diminishing returns on the numbers after a certain amount of time. Up until now they have managed to bounce back to a certain extent by the time fall rolls around. What I have noticed is an overall decrease in certain classes of the coyote population. The abundance of grub that is available in the brush country can sustain a lot of coyotes.. I think that is what allows them to partially rebound year after year. They just send in more reinforcements. One thing for certain. The home team doesn't have the depth it once did.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
[Re: TEJAS]
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11/30/22 09:19 AM
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I have noticed that coyotes seem to shy away from hogs here in Central Texas. But they love deer and jackrabbits. Different dogs with different tastes.
The point is to take what Tejas is doing and see if it might work in your area. Maybe different animal at the bait sight. Maybe smaller, maybe bigger bait pile. Adjust it to your trapping area and your target species. It is similar to way the Canadians have been doing for years with snares around bait sights. Tejas adapted it and made it work in South Texas.
Remember that this is control work, not fur trapping. This is population reduction so his livestock and wildlife has a chance survive. In South Texas, if you don’t control the coyotes, your livestock and wildlife will suffer in a big way.
I applaud Tejas for putting this information out so we can all learn from it. Thanks Tejas!
Here's a trapper that gets it !If this didn’t work extremely well I wouldn’t bother with it. Any method that ups the catch numbers the way this does is an effective tool I will take advantage of. You don’t see trappers passing up a dead cow in a pasture. Why? Because it is an effective means of catching more coyotes. An established bone yard on a ranch or feedlot is targeted for the same exact reason. It’s probably a safe bet to say most working ranches have a dead pit. The bait station is just a bone yard where the coyotes can’t haul off with the goods. Some might think that pulling in coyotes to the area would have a negative impact the deer herd. Deer mortality is extremely low at this time of year around here. They are in top shape and it shows. Fawns of the year can easily elude Wile E. Coyotes pose no real threat to a healthy deer in peak condition. The only time coyotes are a serious concern is when the herd is vulnerable. Fawn drop, fighting injuries, and/or post rut rundown are when we see the most mayhem.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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11/30/22 09:58 PM
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So how many coyotes have you taken off this ranch this year vs previous years with/without bait? I picked up somewhere around fifty at the first of the year. That was when the rut was on and they were not hitting the bait. The vast majority of those were caught running the road. The year before one bait station produced over fifty by itself.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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12/02/22 03:49 PM
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So how many coyotes have you taken off this ranch this year vs previous years with/without bait? I picked up somewhere around fifty at the first of the year. That was when the rut was on and they were not hitting the bait. The vast majority of those were caught running the road. The year before one bait station produced over fifty by itself. How big is this ranch Tejas?
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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12/08/22 10:21 AM
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It’s the busy time of year down here on the border. There hasn’t been much time for internet surfing. We’ve killed some heavy hogs this season, but this big fella should hold the ranch record for some time. Three hundred pound pigs are few and far between. This old boar weighed in well over 400 pounds.
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