You don't. You won't ever hear about pension money being loaned out either. You hear about pension fund impropriety only when you find out your pension will be paid with tax dollars.

https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ocgs/infiltrated-labor-unions heres the latest piece of the tip of the iceburg

Ask yourself how union bosses convinced government to exempt union members from looking for work while on unemployment and being able to refuse offers of employment without losing the unemployment check?

Danny for you.

I hope none of you union bashers belong to any trapping organizations.
Because as soon as trappers became organized they are de facto unionized.

Might be like that in certain states but in Ohio you are required to take the job that pays equal to or more than your unemployment benefits. If not you get no benefits.

True , and if you refuse to work for a union company that calls you , any time of the day or night , if you refuse you lose.

Funny you back unions , being so socialist !
Trapping organizations aren't unions .
It's more like your clubs , a hunting club. or any club you organize that just brings like people together as a benifit .
Dues are once a year , and the benifits out weight the dues.
Also any trapping organization is a plus to even your socialist ideals .
No hand outs but help and good information.
Like I've said before , unions were good until they became political.
Is Fur Harvesters a union ? You pay for a service only when used.
Unions in a way own you.

OTA hired a professional organizer back in the 50's and the rest is history-Today they are the only trapper owned auction house.
You better believe the trapping organizations are unions buster.

OTA hired a professional organizer back in the 50's and the rest is history-Today they are the only trapper owned auction house.
You better believe the trapping organizations are unions buster.
Call it what you want , but it's not a union that controls what you do for a living.
You're free to do it your way , not their way.
Trappers organizations and auctions charge for services rendered , nor services promised!

Are you saying Fur Harvesters that as far as I remember was the only trapper owned auction left , isn't any more?

You can plan all you want , and hope for the best.
You never know for sure what's going to happen anytime in the future.
Unions only care about the dues they get any more.
Your company goes under , they just look for another to unionize !
You don't matter anymore.
4 UNIONS SAME RESULT !

Wrong again.Its required by law,,for pension providers to prove full funding at least once a year to pensioneers.You REALY don't know what your talking about.No wonder the outfits you were working for got rid of you.Hahahahaa,,What a disgruntled EX union employee you are.You don't know the difference between unemployment,,and workers comp.You proved that earlier in this very thread.Half the outfits you worked for went Bankruped.LOL. (bet they love you)Probly a commie too.

I don't have time to read through all 14 pages here at the moment but here are my experiences with unions. DISCLAIMER as a farm worker I have never been part of a union, but I grew up in a union household.

My father was in the carpenters union, he hated the union. They would routinely be given four or five hours worth of work to do and be told to "Make it last all day". He left work for about 10 years but remained a union member to access the insurance benefits. When he went back he was on a job building a new county jail. The job was already underway when he arrived and when he got there he saw that the masons on the job were building a wall on the project incorrectly and he let them know about it. (He is not one to mince words so I am sure he was not very nice about it) But he was told to mind his own business and a carpenter cannot critique the masons work. After they finished building the wall it failed inspection and had to be completely torn out and but the right way. It cost the company 10's of thousands of dollars because union rules that protected people who wouldn't do their jobs properly. Then to top it all off due to the unions mismanagement and poor decisions Bernie Madoff made off with most of his retirement money.

My wife works in a dairy plant that is union (Teamsters) except for the office workers and the lab. She works in the lab and is therefore nonunion. The union has been trying to get the lab and office to join the union for years but they keep voting it down. The Teamsters union in that plant is absolutely worthless to the point that they have been a real detriment to the workers. The company has always been very fair when contracts are due for renewal. However the union needs to justify its existence so it always tuns it down. After negotiations they ALWAYS end up with less than the original offer was. My wife in the lab probably would get a few dollars per hour more pay if they went with the union, but the nonunion workers taking what the company offers them have always had better benefits than the union workers. Significantly better. And way less drama.

Unions were a good thing in the past but have essentially outlived their usefulness and at this time are basically just trying to justify their existence.

Ohiowoodchuck, they are only required to accept a union job if a member of a union, if offered a non union job they can turn it down and still draw unemployment. A non union worker must accept any job offered. So the union hall only offers when the member calls and says he is ready to go back. There is no look for work requirement for union members beyond checking in with the union. Why are union members exempt from taking non union jobs when drawing unemployment? why are they exempt from looking for work requirements? Yes the companies pay the government for the "insurance" but the lions share of money paid is tax dollars.

MattLA I aint buying it. You even apologize for having a coyote on your head.

upstateNY , are you saying the people who will now get a tax dollar union pension knew the money was being whizzed away since the law forced the gangsters to tell them they were doing it? You ought to be a comedian.

Boco we are not allowed to talk about impropriety in trapping organizations on TMan

I'm betting you don't have a job-union or non union.

And where's the "machine gun" you bragged about?

This is getting very weird.

It's getting pretty creepy on here!

You people still trying to convince each other you’re right?

Give it a rest.

It’s already been said numerous times, good and not so good people on both sides of the line.