Re: Time to end labor unions
[Re: danny clifton]
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12/10/22 12:10 AM
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How does one know when a pension is fully funded You don't. You won't ever hear about pension money being loaned out either. You hear about pension fund impropriety only when you find out your pension will be paid with tax dollars. https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ocgs/infiltrated-labor-unions heres the latest piece of the tip of the iceburg
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Time to end labor unions
[Re: danny clifton]
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12/10/22 12:15 AM
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Ask yourself how union bosses convinced government to exempt union members from looking for work while on unemployment and being able to refuse offers of employment without losing the unemployment check?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Time to end labor unions
[Re: MattLA]
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12/10/22 12:19 AM
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Danny for you. First, I deeply apologize sincerely for this outlandish behavior to my fellow trappers, but sometimes you have to prove a point to people the hard way. For my Native American friends, this is not a slant against you either, the animal in the picture is one I deeply respect and I am honored to have the privilege to display it upon my head. Now on to the the business; Danny, which one do you want? Each cost $3k just for the rifle. If black guns aren't your style, might I introduce the gun that has killed more bison, deer, elk and moose than any other rifle caliber in the history of the United States of America. The one and only, true model 94 pre 64 in 30-30, rugged and light, accurate and true, a favorite among true American heroes. Danny, one of the great benefits of being in the union is that they have excellent vision insurance, maybe had you done your time in one, you coulda got them eyes checked, cause they definitely aren't seeing true!
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Re: Time to end labor unions
[Re: danny clifton]
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12/10/22 12:45 AM
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I hope none of you union bashers belong to any trapping organizations. Because as soon as trappers became organized they are de facto unionized.
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Re: Time to end labor unions
[Re: danny clifton]
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Ask yourself how union bosses convinced government to exempt union members from looking for work while on unemployment and being able to refuse offers of employment without losing the unemployment check? Might be like that in certain states but in Ohio you are required to take the job that pays equal to or more than your unemployment benefits. If not you get no benefits.
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Re: Time to end labor unions
[Re: Ohiowoodchuck]
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12/10/22 12:56 AM
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Ask yourself how union bosses convinced government to exempt union members from looking for work while on unemployment and being able to refuse offers of employment without losing the unemployment check? Might be like that in certain states but in Ohio you are required to take the job that pays equal to or more than your unemployment benefits. If not you get no benefits. True , and if you refuse to work for a union company that calls you , any time of the day or night , if you refuse you lose.
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Re: Time to end labor unions
[Re: Boco]
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12/10/22 01:07 AM
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I hope none of you union bashers belong to any trapping organizations. Because as soon as trappers became organized they are de facto unionized. Funny you back unions , being so socialist ! Trapping organizations aren't unions . It's more like your clubs , a hunting club. or any club you organize that just brings like people together as a benifit . Dues are once a year , and the benifits out weight the dues. Also any trapping organization is a plus to even your socialist ideals . No hand outs but help and good information. Like I've said before , unions were good until they became political. Is Fur Harvesters a union ? You pay for a service only when used. Unions in a way own you.
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Re: Time to end labor unions
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12/10/22 01:14 AM
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I hope none of you union bashers belong to any trapping organizations. Because as soon as trappers became organized they are de facto unionized. Funny you back unions , being so socialist ! Trapping organizations aren't unions . It's more like your clubs , a hunting club. or any club you organize that just brings like people together as a benifit . Dues are once a year , and the benifits out weight the dues. Also any trapping organization is a plus to even your socialist ideals . No hand outs but help and good information. Like I've said before , unions were good until they became political. Is Fur Harvesters a union ? You pay for a service only when used. Unions in a way own you. OTA hired a professional organizer back in the 50's and the rest is history-Today they are the only trapper owned auction house. You better believe the trapping organizations are unions buster.
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Re: Time to end labor unions
[Re: danny clifton]
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12/10/22 01:21 AM
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OTA hired a professional organizer back in the 50's and the rest is history-Today they are the only trapper owned auction house. You better believe the trapping organizations are unions buster. Call it what you want , but it's not a union that controls what you do for a living. You're free to do it your way , not their way. Trappers organizations and auctions charge for services rendered , nor services promised!
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Re: Time to end labor unions
[Re: Boco]
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12/10/22 01:23 AM
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Are you saying Fur Harvesters that as far as I remember was the only trapper owned auction left , isn't any more?
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Re: Time to end labor unions
[Re: Wanna Be]
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From what I’m reading is there are a lot of folks that hate their job and didn’t plan for retirement, lol. I truly enjoy my job and plan on a healthy retirement, when I decide to retire. Guess I paired up with a good company and union. You can plan all you want , and hope for the best. You never know for sure what's going to happen anytime in the future. Unions only care about the dues they get any more. Your company goes under , they just look for another to unionize ! You don't matter anymore. 4 UNIONS SAME RESULT !
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Re: Time to end labor unions
[Re: danny clifton]
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12/10/22 02:58 AM
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How does one know when a pension is fully funded You don't. Wrong again.Its required by law,,for pension providers to prove full funding at least once a year to pensioneers.You REALY don't know what your talking about.No wonder the outfits you were working for got rid of you.Hahahahaa,,What a disgruntled EX union employee you are.You don't know the difference between unemployment,,and workers comp.You proved that earlier in this very thread.Half the outfits you worked for went Bankruped.LOL. (bet they love you)Probly a commie too.
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Re: Time to end labor unions
[Re: danny clifton]
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12/10/22 06:37 AM
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Ohiowoodchuck, they are only required to accept a union job if a member of a union, if offered a non union job they can turn it down and still draw unemployment. A non union worker must accept any job offered. So the union hall only offers when the member calls and says he is ready to go back. There is no look for work requirement for union members beyond checking in with the union. Why are union members exempt from taking non union jobs when drawing unemployment? why are they exempt from looking for work requirements? Yes the companies pay the government for the "insurance" but the lions share of money paid is tax dollars.
MattLA I aint buying it. You even apologize for having a coyote on your head.
upstateNY , are you saying the people who will now get a tax dollar union pension knew the money was being whizzed away since the law forced the gangsters to tell them they were doing it? You ought to be a comedian.
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Re: Time to end labor unions
[Re: danny clifton]
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12/10/22 06:41 AM
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Boco we are not allowed to talk about impropriety in trapping organizations on TMan
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Re: Time to end labor unions
[Re: MattLA]
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12/10/22 07:55 AM
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First, I deeply apologize sincerely for this outlandish behavior to my fellow trappers, but sometimes you have to prove a point to people the hard way. For my Native American friends, this is not a slant against you either, the animal in the picture is one I deeply respect and I am honored to have the privilege to display it upon my head. Now on to the the business; Danny, which one do you want? Each cost $3k just for the rifle. If black guns aren't your style, might I introduce the gun that has killed more bison, deer, elk and moose than any other rifle caliber in the history of the United States of America. The one and only, true model 94 pre 64 in 30-30, rugged and light, accurate and true, a favorite among true American heroes. Danny, one of the great benefits of being in the union is that they have excellent vision insurance, maybe had you done your time in one, you coulda got them eyes checked, cause they definitely aren't seeing true! I'm betting you don't have a job-union or non union. And where's the "machine gun" you bragged about?
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Re: Time to end labor unions
[Re: danny clifton]
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12/10/22 08:38 AM
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You people still trying to convince each other you’re right?
Give it a rest.
It’s already been said numerous times, good and not so good people on both sides of the line.
-Goofy-
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