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Question RE: "sight bait" legality in Oregon #7739557
12/09/22 11:14 PM
12/09/22 11:14 PM
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Klamath Co. OR
Easy Paul Offline OP
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Klamath Co. OR
Hey folks, loooong time lurker but decided to get into trapping this year.

I have a question about using sight bait in Oregon. The regs confuse me somewhat:
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"It is unlawful for any person to trap for furbearers,
predatory animals, and/or unprotected mammals using:"

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"7. Sight bait within 15 feet of any foothold trap set
for carnivores."


"Sight Bait" defined in the regs as:

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SIGHT BAIT: Exposed flesh bait including whole
animal carcasses within 15 feet of any foothold trap set
for carnivores.


Can I still use a feather to to flag a cat set? I read this as it would unlawful to use a carcass and if feathers or fur were included it would be worded as such.

Thanks for ya'll help!!

Last edited by Easy Paul; 12/09/22 11:58 PM. Reason: Pdf copy paste

Be easy~
Re: Question RE: "sight bait" legality in Oregon [Re: Easy Paul] #7739614
12/10/22 12:43 AM
12/10/22 12:43 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Oregon
beaverpeeler Offline
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Oregon
My interpretation is that as long as that feather is not from a game bird it can be place within 15' of a foot trap. If you want to be sure call your local ODFW regional biologist or state police game warden and ask. They'll be happy to let you how they see things.

BTW, getting to know your local game warden is a great idea in my opinion. Show that you're trying to abide by the rules and if there ever is a close call or gray area they will likely give you the benefit of the doubt.


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Re: Question RE: "sight bait" legality in Oregon [Re: Easy Paul] #7740117
12/10/22 04:46 PM
12/10/22 04:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2022
Klamath Co. OR
Easy Paul Offline OP
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Klamath Co. OR
Thanks very much for your input!! I sent off an email to get clarification.. I can't be the only person ever to have been confused by this.

Follow up question: In Oregon, what is meant by "pursuit" season?


Be easy~
Re: Question RE: "sight bait" legality in Oregon [Re: Easy Paul] #7740125
12/10/22 04:55 PM
12/10/22 04:55 PM
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Mark McCary Offline
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Easy Paul, to be safe? I would only use feathers from Invasive Birds. In oregon I think they are pigeon, eurasian dove, starling, and english brown sparrow. Please do as Beaverpeeler advised and check with a LOCAL, ODFW agent. Please let us know what You find out? Good Luck and welcome to Tman.

Re: Question RE: "sight bait" legality in Oregon [Re: Easy Paul] #7740141
12/10/22 05:12 PM
12/10/22 05:12 PM
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I think pursuit season is a time period when you can train dogs on game without harvesting any game animals.

Re: Question RE: "sight bait" legality in Oregon [Re: Easy Paul] #7740367
12/10/22 09:47 PM
12/10/22 09:47 PM
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Pursuit season is when you can run game with dogs but not harvest. Also in Oregon you have to choose East or West for your bobcat record card. You can only harvest bobcats on the side of the Cascades you got your card for, but you can pursue them with hounds on the other side, you just can't harvest any. I always get an Eastern card (or have for the last twenty years) but used to go to the west side occasionally and pursue them because I hunted over there when I was young and liked hunting there, and it was great training for the dogs.

Re: Question RE: "sight bait" legality in Oregon [Re: Easy Paul] #7740458
12/10/22 11:29 PM
12/10/22 11:29 PM
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Klamath Co. OR
Easy Paul Offline OP
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Klamath Co. OR
Got it.. The only trapping I have ever done was some ADC work through state agencies so no dogs.. That makes sense.

I will certainly be opting for the Eastern Card.

I sent an email asking about using feathers in Oregon. I will share their response.

Thanks very much all!!


Be easy~
Re: Question RE: "sight bait" legality in Oregon [Re: Easy Paul] #7740864
12/11/22 02:03 PM
12/11/22 02:03 PM
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Oregon
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Oregon
No such thing as an eastern card anymore. About four years ago what was the eastern card was changed to an all-state card, the limit remaining at 5 cats.

That means for Easy he can trap Klamath county for cats or drop down into Jackson on the westside if he so chooses.

Last edited by beaverpeeler; 12/11/22 02:04 PM.

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Re: Question RE: "sight bait" legality in Oregon [Re: beaverpeeler] #7740876
12/11/22 02:22 PM
12/11/22 02:22 PM
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Klamath Co. OR
Easy Paul Offline OP
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Klamath Co. OR
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
No such thing as an eastern card anymore. About four years ago what was the eastern card was changed to an all-state card, the limit remaining at 5 cats.

That means for Easy he can trap Klamath county for cats or drop down into Jackson on the westside if he so chooses.


Right. I'll be opting for the all-state card to focus on the cats on the eastern side closer to me.


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Re: Question RE: "sight bait" legality in Oregon [Re: Easy Paul] #7740953
12/11/22 03:41 PM
12/11/22 03:41 PM
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Oregon
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Oregon
If you ever get the chance get ahold of copies of Wayne Negus' book: "Wilderness Tales and Trails" and Polly Rosborough's "Marten I have Known" book. I'll bet there be plenty there for you to enjoy and perhaps learn from. They both lived and trapped not far from where you're at.


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Re: Question RE: "sight bait" legality in Oregon [Re: Easy Paul] #7741087
12/11/22 06:29 PM
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Huh, I'll have to take at look at mine. The tags are still Eastern or Western, but I guess I haven't looked at my card that closely lately. I know I have to choose when I fill at my license form every year. I would hate to take up some of those 5 slots with coast range orange cats, good to know I could though.

Re: Question RE: "sight bait" legality in Oregon [Re: Easy Paul] #7741212
12/11/22 07:51 PM
12/11/22 07:51 PM
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Klamath Co. OR
Easy Paul Offline OP
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Thanks very much for the reading suggestion!!


Be easy~
Re: Question RE: "sight bait" legality in Oregon [Re: Easy Paul] #7741277
12/11/22 08:52 PM
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Louisiana
Whats the reasoning or thought process behind not using game birds? I use only native wild bird feathers for my eye candy, but I dont know why anybody would think thats bad. Low population of the game birds?

Re: Question RE: "sight bait" legality in Oregon [Re: Easy Paul] #7741311
12/11/22 09:23 PM
12/11/22 09:23 PM
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Oregon
beaverpeeler Offline
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Oregon
The idea for that goes back many years when it was found that certain individuals were killing deer or other game animals just for draw bait. At least that's how I heard the story.


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Re: Question RE: "sight bait" legality in Oregon [Re: Easy Paul] #7741314
12/11/22 09:26 PM
12/11/22 09:26 PM
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Oregon
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Oregon
Originally Posted by Easy Paul
Thanks very much for the reading suggestion!!


Incidentally, both of them give details of the trapper line cabins they constructed in the high Cascades for their marten lines.


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Re: Question RE: "sight bait" legality in Oregon [Re: Easy Paul] #7741318
12/11/22 09:29 PM
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Hope I ain’t missing nothing in the Georgia regs. I use quail feathers and parts. Used dove parts. Even use release training quail the dogs have mouthed beyond use. Even taken the whites of the Woodie feathers and used them. Caught cats, fox, and coyotes with them all. Got a double one morning with a cat in a flat set and a coyote at the dirt hole with feathers around it and quail parts down the hole.

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