Nope, everybody here got paid for their fur,I know,I had marten there.
How much fur did you have there that you were not paid for?

I have to side with BOCO on this one. I have always done better at FHA than I ever did at local auctions or middlemen fur buyers. I hope FHA can stay in business. The last thing trappers need is to lose a direct connection with global fur markets.

The fur they gave away after the chapter 11 people got paid for by the monitor. The rubber check before chapter 11, I don't believe so. Those debts are not payable under the Chapter 11 until the secured creditors are paid.

NAFA did not make all their bad checks good and they did not pay all the people for fur that was left in their hands that was unsold. My brother still has the bad check and the last time I looked, his account still shows a balance due of 20 or 30 dollars. No big deal, they treated us pretty good over the years. I just looked at our NAFA account- $22 still owed to us.

I had a check bounce, about $125 including fee from bank.

Everybody in my district that I know got paid.And so did I.
I only had 2 marten left over from the 60 or so plus a bunch of other fur I had on the previous sale and they sold for 40 a piece,10 dollars less than the avg at the previous sale,and they were high grade marten.

Dirt and others are correct. Checks that bounced were not honored as of yet. I’m out just under 400$ us. They still had about 180 reds of mine which sold afterwards under the Monitor… to Groenwold it appeared. They averaged about 4 dollars I believe. Was paid for those. NOT the previously owed credit from the bounced check.

I am also correct,not everyone who shipped did not get paid.
Lots got paid.

Sounds like people were paid for the furs sold after the bankruptcy but not for those sold before they declared it.

I can summerize this quickly............. Herrman Jansen!

Now BOCO, you must admit there was a time you supported NAFA, whole-heartedly.
I remember posting on here 2 years before the collapse that I was done with them due to the fact they were loaning money to ranchers to expand operations that were un-sustainable, and switched to FHA.
I was met with typical guffaws, because prices from the most recent auction were very good.
That was followed by "issues", and then a crash.

THIS!

We need to be careful and concerned as "trappers" are not much different then "ranchers" in many aspects. We have read a lot of posts over the years talking about how to get some types of set or assigned value for wild fur and that is not as far removed from advancing monies to expand a fur ranch as we may like to think.

Bryce

I had 1 mink and 1 fox there , and never got anything from them, so not everyone got paid

Friend of mine sent 5 cats to nafa and yes he got a bad check $35.00 bank fee. Second check was for $26.00. The bank wanted to change him a fee because it was a check on a Canadian bank. He just ate the loss so no not every one got their money. I saw the cats before he shipped them, they should have brought $1200 to $1500

None. I stop shipping to NAFA in 2014 after the March sale crap show. I left them some rebate money from 2014. I figured they were going to need it. Turns out It didn't help.

That is only because you refuse to know anybody who tells you they didn't get paid. I had a check bounce for a few thousand dollars, not only did I have to pay the fee for a bounced check that NAFA claimed they would pay back and never did. But they never paid the bounced checks. Now they did sell the rest of the fur I had sitting up there several years later, for about 10% of what it was valued at, at the time it was shipped. I did get paid for that, when they firesaled everything they had. But was never reimbursed for the bounced check, and those furs were sold first.
The very first thing they did was go to a judge and get a ruling that nobody could file suit against them for their money, or their furs back.

That being said, NAFA was much more user friendly and transparent in matters like grading and what furs sold and didn't. FHA routinely lies about the percentages of fur that is sold, and their numbers do not add up on anything else if you bother to do the math. I have sent furs to FHA at times, but have not been happy with them. On the other hand I sold with NAFA for fifteen or twenty years and was happy with them up until the time they went under and shorted me close to twenty thousand dollars.

International Auction houses are a good thing for trappers, unfortunately FHA has a very opaque business model and has proven to be untrustworthy in the past, so there is no reason to trust them blindly until they prove they have changed their practices.

From everything I have heard they provide much better service to Canadian and in particular Ontario trappers than they are with US shippers.

No you are not. On page one you said, "Not true,all the trappers who had fur there that I know(and I know a few hunderd in my district)all got paid.It took a bit longer than normal but they still got what their fur sold for." Now you claim you are correct because you say not everyone got paid, but lots did.

He will never admit he was wrong. Don't bother.

I'm not scared. I am thinking of sending FHA some fur this go round . I haven't sent anything in several years now. It would not be good for them to fold!