Re: Bank Beavers?
[Re: Green Bay]
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12/14/22 08:41 PM
12/14/22 08:41 PM
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MattLA
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Teach me about beavers that den in river banks. I have a friend who has a problem but can't seem to find where they are. How far will they travel from the den to cut trees? What should he be looking for along the bank to find them? Most of the beaver where I trap are all river bank dens. They can and will travel a long way man, they are really smart and just when they are looking for something will travel to find it. You need to be looking for consistent feed piles and you will likely see a series of dams that make no sense to you or me, but they know exactly what they are doing. If those bank dens are anything like the ones where I am trapping, you just are not realistically going to be able to get a conibear in front of the entrance, it's 4-6 feet under water at an angle. Normal methods to trap the beaver will work though include blind sets, castor mounds, dam break sets, water way sets, etc. I don't know about WI and river otter, but if you do any conibears, you will likely get an otter or two. Just saying. Goodluck.
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Re: Bank Beavers?
[Re: Green Bay]
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12/14/22 09:53 PM
12/14/22 09:53 PM
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Yukon John
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Teach me about beavers that den in river banks. I have a friend who has a problem but can't seem to find where they are. How far will they travel from the den to cut trees? What should he be looking for along the bank to find them? Forget about the dens, and set where they travel. He will get them, just be patient!
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Re: Bank Beavers?
[Re: Green Bay]
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12/14/22 11:31 PM
12/14/22 11:31 PM
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I've seen only a couple of beaver lodges in my life. All the beaver that I pursue either live in bank dens or just in brush piles or briars. I rarely ever set the den itself. You tend to spook them and they almost always have alternate ways to exit the den. I set on recent beaver activity, usually mud pies.
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Re: Bank Beavers?
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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12/15/22 09:51 AM
12/15/22 09:51 AM
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Boco
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I've seen only a couple of beaver lodges in my life. All the beaver that I pursue either live in bank dens or just in brush piles or briars. I rarely ever set the den itself. You tend to spook them and they almost always have alternate ways to exit the den. I set on recent beaver activity, usually mud pies. Most lodges here start out as bank dens,as the water rises and they keep adding on the outside and excavating on the inside while they raise the dam,the bank den becomes a lodge in the middle of the pond. If you can ascertain where the original creekbed was (deepest spot),it gives you a good place to sound the ice to locate the main entrance. Some older lodges can have 4 or 5 entrances but the main one is almost always wide enough for 2 or 3 traps side by side plus a couple more out in the run.When trapping a lodge you only need to set the main entrance since all the beaver use all the entrances both coming and going and you can catch a bunch with multiple traps at the main entrance only.
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Re: Bank Beavers?
[Re: Northernbeaver]
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12/15/22 09:30 PM
12/15/22 09:30 PM
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What's the size and depth of the river? Thanks for the replies. The river has a max depth of about 6'. There are no dams or lodges to be found.
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Re: Bank Beavers?
[Re: Green Bay]
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12/16/22 02:42 PM
12/16/22 02:42 PM
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JSell
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When I trap on a larger river I start by looking for cuttings, work your way down river and as you go you should notice an increase in cuttings as your approach their home area. Once down stream of their main area the cuttings typically end abruptly. My though on this is that it is easier for them to float cut feed down with the current than it is to drag it back against the current. Typically I will find a feed bed pile wedged in with a down tree and sometimes bank dens can be located around that. As mentioned above, I also like to set where they are already coming out of the water and usually sweeten the deal with a castor mound.
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Re: Bank Beavers?
[Re: Green Bay]
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12/16/22 02:57 PM
12/16/22 02:57 PM
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I learned one (among many other) things from an old time trapper on the main river I trap. Unless you want to catch a lot of kits stay away from setting feedbeds or foraging areas in the willows with multiple trails. Focus on the marking areas that are kept up by adults. When I started doing that my ratio of kits to adult really kicked in to my advantage. One year when I was keeping track out of my first 100 beaver catches only three were kits. The percentage is usually higher than that but that particular season I was trapping a stretch of river that hadn't been trapped by me or anybody else for over 7 years and adults made up a much higher % of the available beaver.
I believe part of that is due to beaver infanticide by the males.
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