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Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan #7750175
12/21/22 08:10 PM
12/21/22 08:10 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Minnesota
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Minnesota


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Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: 330-Trapper] #7750186
12/21/22 08:24 PM
12/21/22 08:24 PM
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Minnesota
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Minnesota
Whole lot of words to not say anything.

Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: 330-Trapper] #7750194
12/21/22 08:32 PM
12/21/22 08:32 PM
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I glazed over it...all you rednecks are not welcome


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Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: 330-Trapper] #7750195
12/21/22 08:33 PM
12/21/22 08:33 PM
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What a waste of money. Some college grad that has never seen what a pack of wolves can do to a local deer heard wrote that.

Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: 330-Trapper] #7750202
12/21/22 08:38 PM
12/21/22 08:38 PM
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Minnesota
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Minnesota
All replies Correct ^^^


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Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: 330-Trapper] #7750211
12/21/22 08:51 PM
12/21/22 08:51 PM
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OH
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One of the many great things about Tman is we get to hear things from all around. I have been seeing a trend in DNR's and it ain't good. Mismanagement of predators is a flat out anti agenda imo.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: 330-Trapper] #7750213
12/21/22 08:54 PM
12/21/22 08:54 PM
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rogers city mi.
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rogers city mi.
collaborate with diverse partners= money


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Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: jeff karsten] #7750219
12/21/22 08:58 PM
12/21/22 08:58 PM
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MN
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MN
Originally Posted by jeff karsten
collaborate with diverse partners= money


My guess is that they were referring to the Tribes and Enviromental groups.


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: 330-Trapper] #7750252
12/21/22 09:30 PM
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Louisiana
Looks like all 9 of the Minnesota Trapping Associations have a lot of work to do as it relates to public opinion of trapping in that state. Check this out.
"Opposition is higher for a wolf trapping season with nearly 60% of Minnesotans opposed and 30%
in support."


Very disappointing to see that in a state that I consider top tier for trapping. I submitted several comments, but one that I always added was that wolves should never be "hunt-able" because it conflicts with their proposed management process. If a member of the public has morals AND they don't like wolves to be killed, which option is preferred? Trapping where we can positively ID whether it's a male, female, pregnant, not pregnant, adult or juvenile, collared or not collared AND if we need to release it, we can gather additional data points as their Wolf Management Plan speaks of.

There are only 2 things I see wrong with the Wolf Plan, one of which is the verbiage "If a harvest season occurs" instead of "When". There should always be a season, but only for trapping and the Wolf Experts there should just tell the trapper how many they can take from the area they are trapping. First come, First served, along with constant communication and monitoring, or they can just make it lottery trap only which I would be fine with. The last part and you guys and even the hunters should be aware of this. https://www.startribune.com/eyeing-...-for-huge-outdoors-investment/600228217/

What this does, if the DNR is successful in getting money from the State, that provides the avenue for the general public to have a say in how hunting, trapping and fishing are regulated. This is terrible because while I fully understand the viewpoint of "as long as there is enough for us to look at, enjoy and see, good to go", but in many cases that is not really how it is.

All in all, I think it's a good Wolf Plan, but I do see it being a bit biased towards the public which is unfortunate because you pander to your audience. The VERY BEST thing that MInnesota Trappers could do to help themselves is get immediately involved in Wolf Trapping for science there in Minnesota. It's far better to be "apart" of the solution and even to be the structure vs trying to fight it with a POV that just will not win anymore. If you get enough people in the structure, you control the process, just remember that. I am going to keep being involved with them, I hope you Minnesota boys can send off enough emails to overcome me. Tight Lines!

Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: 330-Trapper] #7750257
12/21/22 09:33 PM
12/21/22 09:33 PM
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Northern MN
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Northern MN
Let’s get this straight. I am not a registered tribal member of any reservation in Minnesota as most aren’t so I and most other Minnesotans have no say on the wildlife conditions on reservations nor are we allowed to step foot on said reservations to hunt at any time.
Now I’m supposed to “partner” with the tribes and give them say over wolf management state wide?

Excuse me chief floppy feather, you do what the devil you want with the wolves on your reservation but the lands off the reservation are none of your business nor do we need your input on what we do concerning wolves or any other game for that matter.

Osky



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Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: 330-Trapper] #7750263
12/21/22 09:36 PM
12/21/22 09:36 PM
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MN
2 things wrong with the wolf plan?

9 Minnesota trappers associations?

Only should be allowed to trap them?

Either you are very naive or just plain ole obtuse.

Doesn't matter what is right or wrong with the plan, it's mute. They are on the endangered species list and even if they are delisted there won't be a season with the current political climate in MN.


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Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: Steven 49er] #7750307
12/21/22 10:06 PM
12/21/22 10:06 PM
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Minnesota
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
2 things wrong with the wolf plan?

9 Minnesota trappers associations?

Only should be allowed to trap them?

Either you are very naive or just plain ole obtuse.

Doesn't matter what is right or wrong with the plan, it's mute. They are on the endangered species list and even if they are delisted there won't be a season with the current political climate in MN.

I agree Steven 49er


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Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: 330-Trapper] #7750455
12/22/22 12:49 AM
12/22/22 12:49 AM
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I think the wolves and the people who would hunt or trap them have more in common than the goofs who want to bunny hug them. I bet if you gave the wolves a choice, they'd want to go out as proud predators and not some sissified teddy bear play toy. But the wolves don't get to decide their fate...


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: 330-Trapper] #7750484
12/22/22 03:51 AM
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My input would be to high fence the Res and put all 7 or 8 thousand wolves inside. Since they love them so much and want input give them TOTAL control of all of them on their own land.


"Skin that smokewagon and see what happens"
Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: Steven 49er] #7750579
12/22/22 08:07 AM
12/22/22 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er

Either you are very naive or just plain ole obtuse.
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What did you call me? "Obtuse"? 30 days in the hole!


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: 330-Trapper] #7750585
12/22/22 08:15 AM
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Michigan
sounds just like michigan plan

Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: 330-Trapper] #7750612
12/22/22 08:39 AM
12/22/22 08:39 AM
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Wisconsin
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Wisconsin
and Wisconsin. I think they are comparing notes.


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Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: 330-Trapper] #7750622
12/22/22 08:47 AM
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Manitoba
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Manitoba
And when they step across the line to Manitoba we’re allowed 1 wolf with a general deer tag (wether it’s filled or not) or as many as you want with a trappers license.

Last edited by Shakeyjake; 12/22/22 08:47 AM. Reason: Manitoba

Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: 330-Trapper] #7750633
12/22/22 08:54 AM
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east central Minnesota
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What Osky said. I agree


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Re: Minnesota 's Fake wolf plan [Re: Shakeyjake] #7750638
12/22/22 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
And when they step across the line to Manitoba we’re allowed 1 wolf with a general deer tag (wether it’s filled or not) or as many as you want with a trappers license.


Are many harvested on the edge of the states?

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