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hey boco #7750461
12/22/22 01:48 AM
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Explain to me how FHA last year sells 4 coons for 26.00 each , beavers sold , mink sold , rats , fox , castor didn't sell nor a bunch of coons . How do they pay 26 for 4 and can't sell the rest to me they were all equal big coons . It just seems it costs them money to handle these pelts over and over and I understand the more dollars the more commission they get.Our coons aren't special so why not sell them or were there no buyers for the lots. Don't like to bother you but I know you know this business.

Re: hey boco [Re: jalstat] #7750463
12/22/22 01:50 AM
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Re: hey boco [Re: jalstat] #7750526
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The way he talks I thought he did

Re: hey boco [Re: jalstat] #7750529
12/22/22 07:08 AM
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Take a stab at it. Boco can correct me as necessary. First thing your coons might have all been equal big (anyone with a tape can size fur) but they were not all equal grade.

Did you look at the lot(s) your 4 coons were in versus the others? Available in the sales report posted on the FHA site. You can see what lots sold for what $'s. Look at your grades too on your sales report. If you had any amount of coon they were in all sorts of lots. Those 4 coons were for the better limited demand out there for coons now as you probably know. And the rest of your coons either poor demand or even if better grades unsold and FHA waiting for hopefully a better bid.

Yes sold on a commission basis but they try, not always successful in today's market, to not to give them away and so unsold a lot of times.

Re: hey boco [Re: jalstat] #7750540
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Yes sir I understand the lot stuff it just costs money to keep handling lots unless there are no buyers I don't care what I get just sell it . GFW may not be the best but you leave with money in hand thats all I am saying.

Re: hey boco [Re: jalstat] #7750616
12/22/22 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jalstat
Explain to me how FHA last year sells 4 coons for 26.00 each , beavers sold , mink sold , rats , fox , castor didn't sell nor a bunch of coons . How do they pay 26 for 4 and can't sell the rest to me they were all equal big coons . It just seems it costs them money to handle these pelts over and over and I understand the more dollars the more commission they get.Our coons aren't special so why not sell them or were there no buyers for the lots. Don't like to bother you but I know you know this business.


Sometimes the 4 coons are in a smaller lot at the end of a string of furs. They tend to sell easier in this market, someone buys the lot of 36 Skins but passes on the lot of 100.

As for your last question there was no buyers for the valuation FHA put on the fur. Might have been buyers at a lower price but FHA would not accept it, valuations change every auction so what they turned down last auction they might accept this auction.

Re: hey boco [Re: jalstat] #7750618
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Gotcha

Re: hey boco [Re: jalstat] #7750680
12/22/22 09:27 AM
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Saskfly nailed it
sounds like those were 4x and good colour so probably used for a coat collar

once sorted they stay together so no more cost of labour handling, just storage cost
and was it not they built a larger building to handle this

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Thanks for all the information

Re: hey boco [Re: jalstat] #7750906
12/22/22 12:35 PM
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FHA is a trappers auction house so they work to protect the trappers as much as they can.
They have a lot of information about the markets and demands and who buys what.
If they sell a lot for too low a price they have just ruined the market for every single lot below that.
Also they may know that some buyers want certain lots at or near market value,but those buyers are not at the auction.
FHA has increased their cold storage facilities,and has continued to make profits every year for the trappers.
The board of directors(trappers) decided to put the recent profits back into the company for things like the increased cold storage.

Saskfly,Nof50,and Crosspatch all good info.

Last edited by Boco; 12/22/22 12:42 PM.

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Re: hey boco [Re: jalstat] #7750929
12/22/22 12:59 PM
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I thought for "cold storage" in Canada, they just pinned leftover pelts to the clothesline......... blush


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Re: hey boco [Re: coonlove] #7750939
12/22/22 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by coonlove
I thought for "cold storage" in Canada, they just pinned leftover pelts to the clothesline......... blush

That'd likely work about 10 months out of the year,lol.


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Re: hey boco [Re: jalstat] #7751034
12/22/22 02:43 PM
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Boco thanks that clarifies a lot now I got a better understanding

Re: hey boco [Re: Boco] #7751036
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Originally Posted by Boco
Originally Posted by coonlove
I thought for "cold storage" in Canada, they just pinned leftover pelts to the clothesline......... blush

That'd likely work about 10 months out of the year,lol.

but they have to use extra strong clothes pins cause those Ontario mosquito species can carry off some big pay-loads

Re: hey boco [Re: coonlove] #7751824
12/23/22 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by coonlove
I thought for "cold storage" in Canada, they just pinned leftover pelts to the clothesline......... blush

They’ll look like this…hahaha
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