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Re: Green energy
[Re: JoMiBru]
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12/26/22 02:42 PM
12/26/22 02:42 PM
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Joined: Apr 2012
new york
mike mason
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new york
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Fracking for natural gas and oil.
Coal mining.
Commercial fishing.
Agricultural practices.
We have spent years perfecting these industries, the core industries that make our country’s economy thrive. We’ve made the combustion engine so efficient with little emissions. Farmers are putting plenty of food across our tables. Etc etc for the industries listed.
Let these industries thrive with less interference and we will remain warm and well fed, with plenty of job opportunity. Add timber harvesting and blue stone and mining other stone products.
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Re: Green energy
[Re: martentrapper]
#7755089
12/26/22 05:07 PM
12/26/22 05:07 PM
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Joined: Jul 2009
100 Mile House, BC Can
bctomcat
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100 Mile House, BC Can
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The amount of energy in a pound of coal, a gallon of oil, or a cubic foot of natural gas, is likely beyond the ability of humans to exceed. Burning them for electricity, heat, and transportation is the most sensible source for getting those things. If the govt. really was interested in helping society it would provide incentives to making those sources of energy cleaner! Amen!
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: Green energy
[Re: martentrapper]
#7755159
12/26/22 08:04 PM
12/26/22 08:04 PM
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Joined: Dec 2008
MN
walleye101
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MN
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The amount of energy in a pound of coal, a gallon of oil, or a cubic foot of natural gas, is likely beyond the ability of humans to exceed. Burning them for electricity, heat, and transportation is the most sensible source for getting those things. If the govt. really was interested in helping society it would provide incentives to making those sources of energy cleaner! Agreed, but before you can make things cleaner you have to accurately define what is dirty. Carbon dioxide is not dirty.
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Re: Green energy
[Re: martentrapper]
#7755165
12/26/22 08:08 PM
12/26/22 08:08 PM
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J Staton
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J Staton
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The amount of energy in a pound of coal, a gallon of oil, or a cubic foot of natural gas, is likely beyond the ability of humans to exceed. Burning them for electricity, heat, and transportation is the most sensible source for getting those things. If the govt. really was interested in helping society it would provide incentives to making those sources of energy cleaner! I wonder if hydrogen would exceed the energy produced by coal, oil, or natural gas?
Last edited by J Staton; 12/26/22 08:10 PM.
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Re: Green energy
[Re: Sheepdog1]
#7755197
12/26/22 08:40 PM
12/26/22 08:40 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Oakland, MS
Drifter
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Oakland, MS
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Cost to produce hydrogen
via electrolysis using wind energy in prime sites is estimated at around $5.50/kg.
That’s about the equivalent of $3 gasoline when run through a fuel cell.
Lotsa ways to skin the kitty.
Some individuals use statistics as a drunk man uses lamp-posts — for support rather than for illumination.
Andrew Lang (1844-1912) Scottish poet, novelist and literary critic
Life member NTA , and GA Trappers assoc .
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Re: Green energy
[Re: waggler]
#7755373
12/26/22 11:11 PM
12/26/22 11:11 PM
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Joined: Oct 2011
Wheaton Ks
lee steinmeyer
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Wheaton Ks
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I'm all for green energy; and hydro and nuclear are the cleanest and greenest while at the same time being economical and practical. But….it’s gotta be self sustaining and practical. Get the dang gov out of things and this country can thrive!
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Re: Green energy
[Re: Sheepdog1]
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12/27/22 08:52 AM
12/27/22 08:52 AM
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Very SE Nebraska
Gary Benson
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Very SE Nebraska
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Used to be every town on a creek/river would have a hydro plant for both grist mills and power generation. They were shut down because they were "too much maintenance." Personally I think there just wasn't enough money to be made because the energy was already there...basically free, and could be used over and over as it flows downstream. I'm not buying their logic as everything takes maintenance.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: Green energy
[Re: Sheepdog1]
#7755530
12/27/22 08:53 AM
12/27/22 08:53 AM
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Very SE Nebraska
Gary Benson
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Very SE Nebraska
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Same with natural gas. There's an endless supply of it, just not enough profit for the big hitters.
Just look at how much money has to be spent on wind turbines and solar panels to produce the most unreliable sources of energy. Who do you suppose is most heavily invested in and profiting from this nonsense?
Last edited by Gary Benson; 12/27/22 08:55 AM.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: Green energy
[Re: waggler]
#7755647
12/27/22 12:14 PM
12/27/22 12:14 PM
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MN
walleye101
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MN
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I'm all for green energy; and hydro and nuclear are the cleanest and greenest while at the same time being economical and practical. I'd hardly consider daming up major rivers as "green", and given the longterm waste from nuclear it's really not "clean" either.
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Re: Green energy
[Re: walleye101]
#7755812
12/27/22 04:29 PM
12/27/22 04:29 PM
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Joined: Oct 2019
Custer Co, Idaho
sneaky
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Custer Co, Idaho
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I'm all for green energy; and hydro and nuclear are the cleanest and greenest while at the same time being economical and practical. I'd hardly consider daming up major rivers as "green", and given the longterm waste from nuclear it's really not "clean" either. How much nuclear waste do you think has been generated since the beginning of its use? I would wager it is far less than you are imagining, and certainly less than all of the other energy processes being used. Nuclear is far and away the greenest source of energy, and also the most stigmatized.
Last edited by sneaky; 12/27/22 04:29 PM.
Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand
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Re: Green energy
[Re: Sheepdog1]
#7755893
12/27/22 06:19 PM
12/27/22 06:19 PM
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Very SE Nebraska
Gary Benson
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Very SE Nebraska
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A river doesn't have to be dammed up to create hydro. There are many big rivers that flow a strong current year round.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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