Black Pheasant
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12/23/22 07:04 PM
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Snowpa
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How common would they be ,My Grandson wants to mount one that he shot he is 23 . I have never seen one . Just wondering
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Re: Black Pheasant
[Re: Snowpa]
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12/23/22 07:06 PM
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Donnersurvivor
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How common would they be ,My Grandson wants to mount one that he shot he is 23 . I have never seen one . Just wondering Captive raised ones are common, you can order as many black chicks as you want. Hard to say if it's a true wild one or a released. I guess it just depends on how much it means to him.
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Re: Black Pheasant
[Re: Snowpa]
#7752449
12/23/22 07:19 PM
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Is it a mechanistic phase of a ringneck pheasant or a sichaun pheasant? Sichauns are black or very dark and are a different sub-specie of pheasant. Or game commision used to stock them when they were trying to restore the pheasant population because they have different breeding habits than ringnecks.
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Re: Black Pheasant
[Re: Snowpa]
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12/23/22 07:23 PM
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There is an area NE of my hometown that over the course of the past 30+ years we have taken 3 black roosters. They have all come from the same general area, four sections. We have never seen nor heard of another anywhere around. There is no, nor ever been a pheasant farm anywhere up there. We are close friends with all the neighbors up there, none of there families have ever raised pet birds either. Our thoughts are just a genetic anomaly up in that population that shows itself everyone and then.
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Re: Black Pheasant
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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12/23/22 07:26 PM
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How common would they be ,My Grandson wants to mount one that he shot he is 23 . I have never seen one . Just wondering Captive raised ones are common, you can order as many black chicks as you want. Hard to say if it's a true wild one or a released. I guess it just depends on how much it means to him. My question to you would be have you seen one ,Do you have one ,I am seventy-one and this is a first to me .This is a heavy bird and no one in the area raises them ,So were gonna mount it and thats a take
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Re: Black Pheasant
[Re: Snowpa]
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12/23/22 07:27 PM
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IMO, that looks like a sichaun. I'd mount it no matter if it's a black ringneck or a sichaun.
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Re: Black Pheasant
[Re: Snowpa]
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12/23/22 08:49 PM
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Beautiful bird !!!
He wants to mount it ?? Do it !!!
That being said............ This past Monday, I saw 8-10 pheasants in a winter wheat field down over the bank of the highway. Of those, probably over half were melanistics. But there's a mile long bottom there that guys release birds to hunt. These weren't wild-raised birds.
Wollen nicht krank dein feind. Planen es.
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Re: Black Pheasant
[Re: Snowpa]
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12/23/22 08:49 PM
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I seen one several times this fall running my short line. Always seemed to be around the same place and had thought about going after it. Mentioned it to the local LO and he said one of the neighbors had raised about a dozen or so and released them this fall. I decided to let it be, maybe they'll multiply. It is a beautiful bird, I would probably get it mounted.
Last edited by 20scout; 12/23/22 10:22 PM.
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Re: Black Pheasant
[Re: Snowpa]
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12/23/22 09:31 PM
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They do occur once in a while in the wild And at the same time it is possible that it is a pen raised bird But it looks pretty sharp to me And if I was the young man that shot it and liked it enough to want to get it mounted I WOULD NOT CARE ONE BIT WHAT SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT THINK OF IT .He shot it legal and that gives him the right to do with it what he chooses If that is what he does with it post another pic of it when it is finished
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Re: Black Pheasant
[Re: w side rd 151]
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12/23/22 11:25 PM
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They do occur once in a while in the wild And at the same time it is possible that it is a pen raised bird But it looks pretty sharp to me And if I was the young man that shot it and liked it enough to want to get it mounted I WOULD NOT CARE ONE BIT WHAT SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT THINK OF IT .He shot it legal and that gives him the right to do with it what he chooses If that is what he does with it post another pic of it when it is finished You can count on it
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Re: Black Pheasant
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12/24/22 09:05 AM
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Shot one last year. Closest guy I knew that raised them was about 8 miles away. Tasted good and I used the feathers for trapping fox.
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Re: Black Pheasant
[Re: Snowpa]
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12/24/22 10:44 AM
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Guys, think it is a sichaun pheasant as stated above. They look like the one Snowpa's grandson is holding.
It could be a mechanistic ringneck but I'm betting it's a sichaun.
Either way, if he wants to mount it, he should. Then he should have a ringnreck mounted next to it.
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Re: Black Pheasant
[Re: Snowpa]
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12/24/22 11:43 AM
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There's more than 30 strains of ringneck pheasants in the wild in Asia and dozens of colors in captivity. Many different species of pheasants will cross with ringnecks too. I had 1750 black ringnecks like that back in 1997 and smaller numbers, many years since. If he wants it mounted, I would get it mounted. This was the coolest mutted up pheasant I ever had. The picture doesn't do him justice. In sunlight, he was spectacular. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2022/12/full-11798-162264-img_1674.jpg) I've had sky blue, apricot, yellow piece, peach, electric blue, black, melanistic brown, green, white, buff, blueback, greenback, copper and red ringneck pheasants. There's a lot more colors available than those. People have selectively bred ringneck pheasants since before the formation of the Roman Empire, which stocked them everywhere they conquered and spread. Keith
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Re: Black Pheasant
[Re: Snowpa]
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12/24/22 11:59 AM
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Right West Side, they are all non-natives. They're still great fun to hunt though!
I remember when the PGC started stocking the sichauns. The first one I flushed I didn't shoot at because I wasn't sure what exactly it was. Back then we still had the cockbirds only rule.
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Re: Black Pheasant
[Re: KeithC]
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12/24/22 12:00 PM
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There's more than 30 strains of ringneck pheasants in the wild in Asia and dozens of colors in captivity. Many different species of pheasants will cross with ringnecks too. I had 1750 black ringnecks like that back in 1997 and smaller numbers, many years since.
If he wants it mounted, I would get it mounted. Keith Were your black pheasants sichauns Keith?
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Re: Black Pheasant
[Re: Snowpa]
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12/24/22 12:15 PM
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There's more than 30 strains of ringneck pheasants in the wild in Asia and dozens of colors in captivity. Many different species of pheasants will cross with ringnecks too. I had 1750 black ringnecks like that back in 1997 and smaller numbers, many years since.
If he wants it mounted, I would get it mounted. Keith Were your black pheasants sichauns Keith? Doug, Sichuan is a name used to describe several different captive strains of ringneck pheasants that vary in appearance. It's a province in China. The pheasants I have seen called sichaun have all been similar to the regular ringneck in color. I had blacks from many different sources over the last 25 years. They are called by lots of different names by the people selling them. Most are crossed with other color varieties, which makes them vary widely in how dark they are and whether they have red, green, copper or blue iridescence in the sun. Keith
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Re: Black Pheasant
[Re: Snowpa]
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12/24/22 01:12 PM
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Interesting Keith, I knew Sichaun was a province in China. But I didn't know it was a generic name used to describe various strains of pheasants. The ones I saw stocked in my area were very dark or black with no rings on the necks (as West Side said) but they had a typical rooster's tail. . Our game commission called them sichauns. I assumed that was a name for a specific strain of pheasant.
West Side, one of my favorite things to do is to hunt those Chinese chickens over my labs.
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