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Re: Snare Question
[Re: Ranger109]
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12/29/22 12:50 PM
12/29/22 12:50 PM
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One good rule of thumb is to keep the distance under your snair a couple of inches smaller than the loop opening this will help prevent coyote from nosing under your loop. If you use a large loop say 12 inches creeping the loop 12 inches high will help prevent the coyote from hopping through the loop and getting hip caught. Just use a chin up stick or weed to prevent nose unders. Like ADC said 10 -12 inches depending on opening. On steep trail slightly lower is better 1to2 inches coyotes will have there nose lower. Good luck
Christ is King
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Re: Snare Question
[Re: Ranger109]
#7757284
12/29/22 12:52 PM
12/29/22 12:52 PM
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Colorado
Raptortrapper
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I was taught 12" loop, 12" up. Seems to work pretty good!
Why do I carry 10mm? Because shooting twice is just silly.
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Re: Snare Question
[Re: Ranger109]
#7757340
12/29/22 01:46 PM
12/29/22 01:46 PM
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100 Mile House, BC Can
bctomcat
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14" loop set 14" above the ground has worked great for me in bait station and trail sets. Other wise set for the situation ,small loop in tight situations like narrow pathway or fence crawl under.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: Snare Question
[Re: Ranger109]
#7757414
12/29/22 03:35 PM
12/29/22 03:35 PM
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Ames, IA
MikeTraps2
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I do 10" and 10", I have a ax handle that I marked at 10 and 20 inches from the end so I can make precise loop sizes and make sure I have it the right height off the trail as well.
Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure
Theodore Roosevelt
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Re: Snare Question
[Re: Giant Sage]
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12/29/22 05:47 PM
12/29/22 05:47 PM
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Iowa
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Just use a chin up stick or weed to prevent nose unders. I never do that anymore. IMO it caused the coyotes to step up through the loop even if it was just a small weed or pine needle or twig over the bottom of the loop. By supporting the snares the way I do, I'm ok with them passing under the loop on rare occasions, as it'll fall right back into position for the next one down the trail.
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Re: Snare Question
[Re: Ranger109]
#7757579
12/29/22 07:19 PM
12/29/22 07:19 PM
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100 Mile House, BC Can
bctomcat
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I agree with ADC, chin lifters for coyote are a no no, but OK for cats. Some coyotes may walk under the snare, but coyotes do not always travel with their heads down; they often travel with their heads up. If one goes under the snare, on the next trip it will come through with its head up. Or another coyote will come through with its head up.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: Snare Question
[Re: bctomcat]
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12/29/22 07:45 PM
12/29/22 07:45 PM
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14" loop set 14" above the ground has worked great for me in bait station and trail sets. Other wise set for the situation ,small loop in tight situations like narrow pathway or fence crawl under. I understand what you guys are getting at. I see peaple set chin ups under the snair or even hang them off the snair. If the chin up is set up right it won't cause hip snaired coyotes. I had quit using chin ups until I watched a Marty Senicer video and saw his method. A partial obstruction like a twig or brush from the side partially blocking the space under the snair deturing nose unders. I use chin ups on most snairs now and I haven't had a hip hung coyote for maybe 150 snared. Hope I didn't just jinx myself lol. Always trying new things and open for new ideas.
Christ is King
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Re: Snare Question
[Re: Ranger109]
#7757746
12/29/22 10:15 PM
12/29/22 10:15 PM
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100 Mile House, BC Can
bctomcat
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I cannot ever remember catching a coyote by the hips and cannot fathom how a chin lifter would solve that problem. You must of changed something else in your snare set ups other than just using a chin lifter. reduced your snare size and set the height of loop bottom higher to the ground ??????????????
Last edited by bctomcat; 12/29/22 11:31 PM.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: Snare Question
[Re: Ranger109]
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12/29/22 10:21 PM
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james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
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Flank catches are from too big a loop. Trappers who have experience snaring use small loops. I dont care if a loop is knocked down.It does not spook an animal and he will be in the next snare. I dont want damaged fur or live animals in snares if I can help it. Nothing is 100% but you can do a lot to prevent flank catches.
Last edited by Boco; 12/29/22 10:24 PM.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Snare Question
[Re: bctomcat]
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12/29/22 10:59 PM
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I cannot ever remember catching a coyote by the hips and cannot fathom how a chin lifter would solve that problem. You must of changed something else in your snare set ups other than just using a chin lifter. Increased your snare size and set the height of loop bottom to low to the ground ?????????????? The chin up is not to prevent hip catches, it can cause hip catches if done wrong. I use the chin up from the side to ceep the coyote from nosing under the snair. All I know is I've developed a method that works for me under the conditions that I work in. To be honest if you could use a 14 inch loop in Wyoming there's plenty of places I would. I definitely get less refusals with a larger loop.
Christ is King
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Re: Snare Question
[Re: Mark McCary]
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12/30/22 01:25 AM
12/30/22 01:25 AM
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Giant Sage, I agree their is a way too help raise or guide the coyotes head into the snare loop without also raising the feet into the snare. You touched on it when you said guide from the sides! 12" bottom loop height works well for me. The devil is in the details as I've heard, what I like about coyotes, always learning.
Christ is King
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Re: Snare Question
[Re: Ranger109]
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12/30/22 06:21 AM
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USA MN
Snowpa
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USA MN
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!0 and ten for me put lots of coyotes down
Never Confuse Stupid With Crazy
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