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Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: Spike369] #7761607
01/03/23 10:51 AM
01/03/23 10:51 AM
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7mtns of CENTRAL PA
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Originally Posted by Spike369
Man, I love these stories. You guys are great! This site is my 1st stop every morning after I check my traps.


Make sure u keep your chest waders on! whistle

Last edited by GROUSEWIT; 01/03/23 10:51 AM.

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Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761618
01/03/23 11:04 AM
01/03/23 11:04 AM
Joined: Mar 2007
Central MN, sort of old
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I am reluctant to share this as I will no doubt be called a liar but since we are talking outlandish claims, I thought I would share a few of my past experiences as a much younger, (teens and early 20's) more foolish man 60 years ago.
I will start with a few with handguns: Shot a running snowshoe hare with a .22 handgun, a running striped gopher also, shot a flying merganser with a .357 Ruger Blackhawk, and a flying crow with .22 model 41 S&W at a paced off 90 yards to where he hit the ground (witnessed). While shooting thrown bottles in the air with a handgun, a friend threw one hard,overhand and said:" If you break this one, I will buy you all the booze you can ever drink." He pegged it as hard as he could over the side of the dump and I swung on it and shot the neck off the bottle. Surprised me too but he never lived up to his promise. He would have gone broke, and he knew it.
Shot about a dozen flying ducks with a .22 rifle including a double on mallards (witnessed) I also shot a double on flying pheasants with the .22 rifle (also witnessed)
WE had just shot a couple of deer on a field and a crow was circling high above the gut piles so feeling pretty enthusiastic after shooting the deer, I shot the crow out of the air with a .30-06 Remington 760. Shot a couple of hand thrown clay pigeons at a gravel pit with the same gun also.
Another time, while shooting bottles in the air with .22 rifles at a dump up by Bemidji where I was going to college, a friend threw a penny up in the air and yelled:" Hit this!"
I shot and the penny disappeared and just hummed as it spun out of sight.

Shot a Crow out of a tree at 80 yards with a colt Buntline Scout .22 Mag. and a Pied Billed Grebe at about the same distance on the water with a Ruger .22 Mag Convertible.

Shooting running jackrabbits with our deer rifles was something we did for entertainment in NW MN as well, but missing more than hitting was the norm, but good practice.

I am going to say that all of these experiences were a long time ago and I am ashamed today at the recklessness and unsafe shooting practices that I employed during these experiences. The statutes of limitations have expired but I also am ashamed at my disregard of regulations at that time. I am a different person now and most likely cannot repeat those feats due to failing eyesight and reflexes. I never did and still don't consider myself a good shot...just lucky a lot of times.

I doubt any of this will be believed and it matters not to me because these events are part of my past and really did happen. If you put enough lead up into the air, it is bound to make contact with something once in a while. Kids, don't try any of this at home.

Last edited by MnMan; 01/03/23 11:31 AM.

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Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: Cragar] #7761626
01/03/23 11:18 AM
01/03/23 11:18 AM
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Green County Wisconsin
[quote=Cragar]And then there is this......782 yards...... eek

looks a lot more like 350ish from the gate so maybe 400ish total
that video they do the math and use 35mph that is a little fast for a horse
if you do the math and if you could actually trust that time is real on film. horses is more like 20-25mph and it takes some time to get up to speed , jumping a gait slows you down.
so say it is a good horse and averages 22mph for 46 seconds 494 yards
if it is more like 18mph for 46 seconds 404yards

if you look when whitey is about to set the bucket down , the only gait is in the foreground whiteys head is blurred but the bucket is in view being just a touch larger than a head
look at the trees they have limbs and you can see the branches in the trees at the similar range. at 800 you don't see limbs on trees like that.

some simple range estimation and no I didn't come up with this I shamelessly stole it from the US snipers that did they had a lot of time watching people at know ranges to come up with it

100 man has a face
200 no face
300 no hands
400 no head
500 no light between legs
600 looks like a triangle

so if you can still see the light between the horses legs and the gait in the foreground as well as a bucket and his arm reaching down with the bucket, seems heavy on the Hollywood fudge factor

maybe this is why people think they are shooting 562 yards at elk and it is a touch over 275.

in any case I sure wouldn't want to be out there because even 50 inches low is too close because people get lucky all the time

when you think about the range estimation above
if you run a battel sight zero on say a 5.56 AR with 55gr xm193 20 inch barrel that is spot on at 27y/25m then you should be about 6 inches high at 100y , 10 inches high at 200 and 7 inches high at 300 yards and 3 inches low at 400 yards.

so if you have a head , squeeze the trigger holding on center mass


Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 01/03/23 11:22 AM.

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Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761659
01/03/23 11:57 AM
01/03/23 11:57 AM
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western mn
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Heck, I've shot pheasants (a couple) a Hungarian partridge, a couple doves,killdeer,ducks and quite a few pigeons out of the air with a wristrocket.


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761673
01/03/23 12:18 PM
01/03/23 12:18 PM
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NC - Here there and everywhere
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I have made some shots on waterfowl with a 410 or 28 gauge shotgun that have made many people raise their eyebrows. They think it's magic, but it's really just simple ballistics and tss shot.

80 yards or closer is fair game. I don't regularly take these shots, but sometimes they are necessary. Birds that my buddies wound with steel shot that swim off and then try to fly away, wounded birds in areas dangerous for my dog to retrieve, etc etc


Gotta live up to the nickname...
Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761674
01/03/23 12:19 PM
01/03/23 12:19 PM
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IA
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IA
I was coon hunting one time, the dogs treed one, I found him with the light. Was just ready to pull the trigger and he fell out of the tree dead as a doornail. He new he was toast. Critters die when they see me coming.

Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761683
01/03/23 12:33 PM
01/03/23 12:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Ames, IA
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Ames, IA
Best I have done is:
Dumdum lollipop at about 25 feet one handed with a BB gun,
My Son and I shooting 30-06 cases with our .22 at 50 yards
Trotting coyote with a .22 at 59 long paces, right behind the ear
Red fox at 72 paces with 3inch BB's, aimed at his head as he was facing me, enough hit his head to drop him like he was poleaxed

My best though was a buddy and my brother and i were out target shooting and ran out of clay birds and started shooting pop cans with gravel in them to they had weight to throw my buddy an brother had missed several and I was giving them grief about it. My Buddy Mike picked up a can and whipped it up and hot "HIT THAT!". I snapped my gun up and shot, hit the can and blew it in half then pumped and hit each half before it hit the ground!

I had to try to act cool, they werent buying LOL.

Nothing truly amazing but all were tough shots, I am not prone to take shots I feel to far or difficult


Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure

Theodore Roosevelt
Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761698
01/03/23 12:41 PM
01/03/23 12:41 PM
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KY
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KY
When I was working as an archery tech a guy that worked at the store but a different department brought in a recurve crossbow he had bought at a yard sale. He wanted me to check it out and make sure it was safe. The bow looked like new, but had nothing on it that said who made it or when. It was a more modern bow, but was not anything I was familiar with, and for sure not an Excaliber. It looked good to go so I strung it up and took it out to the range. It had iron sites. I cocked it and loaded a bolt, took a shot and to my surprise it hit dang near dead center. I figured it wouldn't do that again so I aimed at the exact same spot. I squeezed the trigger and there was a load crack and I thought I had blown the dang crossbow up. I still had all my parts, the bow still had all its parts, the big crack had been the second bolt center punching the first in a perfect Robinhood! Guy came back to see how it did and I just handed him the Robinhooded bolts and said "I think it shoots just fine."

Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761705
01/03/23 12:51 PM
01/03/23 12:51 PM
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SW Georgia
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SW Georgia
Holy cow, there are some serious claims on here and to avoid upsetting folks I’ll not comment, but I will say there are some claims on here that are mathematically and physically impossible…but Kudos to all!

Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: MnMan] #7761708
01/03/23 12:54 PM
01/03/23 12:54 PM
Joined: Sep 2012
Northern Wisconsin,Rhinelander
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Northern Wisconsin,Rhinelander
Originally Posted by MnMan
I am reluctant to share this as I will no doubt be called a liar but since we are talking outlandish claims, I thought I would share a few of my past experiences as a much younger, (teens and early 20's) more foolish man 60 years ago.
I will start with a few with handguns: Shot a running snowshoe hare with a .22 handgun, a running striped gopher also, shot a flying merganser with a .357 Ruger Blackhawk, and a flying crow with .22 model 41 S&W at a paced off 90 yards to where he hit the ground (witnessed). While shooting thrown bottles in the air with a handgun, a friend threw one hard,overhand and said:" If you break this one, I will buy you all the booze you can ever drink." He pegged it as hard as he could over the side of the dump and I swung on it and shot the neck off the bottle. Surprised me too but he never lived up to his promise. He would have gone broke, and he knew it.
Shot about a dozen flying ducks with a .22 rifle including a double on mallards (witnessed) I also shot a double on flying pheasants with the .22 rifle (also witnessed)
WE had just shot a couple of deer on a field and a crow was circling high above the gut piles so feeling pretty enthusiastic after shooting the deer, I shot the crow out of the air with a .30-06 Remington 760. Shot a couple of hand thrown clay pigeons at a gravel pit with the same gun also.
Another time, while shooting bottles in the air with .22 rifles at a dump up by Bemidji where I was going to college, a friend threw a penny up in the air and yelled:" Hit this!"
I shot and the penny disappeared and just hummed as it spun out of sight.

Shot a Crow out of a tree at 80 yards with a colt Buntline Scout .22 Mag. and a Pied Billed Grebe at about the same distance on the water with a Ruger .22 Mag Convertible.

Shooting running jackrabbits with our deer rifles was something we did for entertainment in NW MN as well, but missing more than hitting was the norm, but good practice.

I am going to say that all of these experiences were a long time ago and I am ashamed today at the recklessness and unsafe shooting practices that I employed during these experiences. The statutes of limitations have expired but I also am ashamed at my disregard of regulations at that time. I am a different person now and most likely cannot repeat those feats due to failing eyesight and reflexes. I never did and still don't consider myself a good shot...just lucky a lot of times.

I doubt any of this will be believed and it matters not to me because these events are part of my past and really did happen. If you put enough lead up into the air, it is bound to make contact with something once in a while. Kids, don't try any of this at home.


I concur with a lot of your claims. 45 years ago I shot at a crow that was sitting in a lone popple tree 100 plus yards into a dense tag alder swamp. Off hand with an open sighted .22 bolt action Marlin. My dad and I watched in amazement as that crow fell straight down from the top of the tree after the first shot. Second miracle shot was with a 45 lb recurve bow and a broadhead tipped cedar arrow. Right at dusk (okay maybe 30 minutes later!) a yearling deer appeared about 125 yards into a a clover field and was easily silohetted by the moon. Took the recurve and lobbed that arrow at an aproximate 45 degree angle and my buddies and I were astounded when we heard the tell tale thwack of the arrow hitting the deer. It was an angled gut shot but she laid down within a minute and was dead when we made it out to the middle of the field. Obviously both examples were unacceptable behavior and judgement on my part and I would never encourage anyone that reads this to try the same foolishness but thank goodness I grew out of and survived that phase in my life.

Chris


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Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761710
01/03/23 12:57 PM
01/03/23 12:57 PM
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Walking back to the truck in a 40 acre corn field Pheasant hunting , a crow was flying directly over, way the heck up. My buddy says , "you couldn't hit that ", I shot, it fell out of the sky right onto the hood of his pickup a hundred yards away. Earlier I had missed 2 pheasants.

Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761712
01/03/23 12:59 PM
01/03/23 12:59 PM
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Here's the current real thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFMWZ7Wabes

Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761723
01/03/23 01:19 PM
01/03/23 01:19 PM
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West Central MN
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They say the secret to being a good shot is to shoot first and then tell everyone what you hit was what you where aiming at.


Common sense is a not a vegetable that does well in everyone's garden.
Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: 20scout] #7761773
01/03/23 02:22 PM
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SW Georgia
Originally Posted by 20scout
They say the secret to being a good shot is to shoot first and then tell everyone what you hit was what you where aiming at.

Ain’t that the truth. Took a skybusting shot at some Snows. One fell. Everyone said that was an impossible shot, lol. What they didn’t know was I had a long lead on the front bird of the V and the third bird back fell out of the sky. Turned out it was the only Blue in the flock and everyone thought that was the bird I was after.

Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761811
01/03/23 03:17 PM
01/03/23 03:17 PM
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Fella i worked with watched a doe and buck run behind a huge hill He knew where the trailwas and what his 30-30 ballistics were so he shot he wasn't amazed that he killed the buck what amazed him was he killed the doe too


olden tyred
Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: jeff karsten] #7761868
01/03/23 04:22 PM
01/03/23 04:22 PM
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East-Central Wisconsin
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Son in law shot for 11 years in the WI reserves and was champion a couple years. He works with two friends do buld their own firearms. He reloads most of his ammo. He shoots every Thursday with 4 friends and our son.
He and his best friend have friendly competiton all the time. They head west to shoot dogs once or twice each year. Mike's record shot for a dog is 700 yards. They have all the windage gear, range finders etc.

Bryce

Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761903
01/03/23 05:21 PM
01/03/23 05:21 PM
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When I was about 13 I skewered a bushtit (body smaller than a nickel) with a field point at about 30 yards up in tree. I kind of felt bad about it, I didn't really expect to hit it.


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Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761989
01/03/23 07:24 PM
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I have no problem believing most of these stories. I think I may live a parallel life with MnMan. I grew up in West central Minnesota and either myself shooting or was a witness to a lot of the exact types of successful shots. Witnessed a buddy here in Alaska shoot the head off a flying ptarmigan with a .44 pistol at about 80 yards.


GUK.....it's the sound they make when they hit the end of the cable
Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7762061
01/03/23 08:55 PM
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My mom had a saying for hard to believe fishing tales that probably applies to this subject also. " first liar doesn't stand a chance"

Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: Cragar] #7762064
01/03/23 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cragar
And then there is this......782 yards...... eek


Tom Selleck actually made that shot. I used to work with a guy whose mom worked at the place that made the rifle he used. I don't remember how many times he shot to make the shot, but it was quite a few. Oh and interesting fact, Selleck had injured his arm when they were making that movie, so they made him two rifles, one that he shot and another with an aluminum barrel and frame so it was much lighter for him to pack around for the rest of the filming.

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