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Worms in raccoons #7763910
01/06/23 01:13 AM
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The last three coons I’ve skinned when I ringed the ankle to start skinning I find a bunch of long slim white worms. I know coons and all other critters carry a host of parasites, but was just wondering out of curiosity if anyone else has seen this and what kind of worm these are. I always kind of associated worms with being in the intestines or something different than just around the feet.


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Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7763912
01/06/23 01:21 AM
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Guinea worms. Otters get them as well.

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Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7763954
01/06/23 05:44 AM
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Common thing here.

Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7763983
01/06/23 07:13 AM
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Common here. Coon feet are full of worms.
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Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7764016
01/06/23 08:17 AM
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About 50% to 60% of coons have them down here. Have only seen them in otter ankles once or twice out of hundreds I've skint.


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Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7764028
01/06/23 08:29 AM
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Common here too.

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D. insignis and D. lutrae are not transmissible to man, and therefore, are not of public health significance


https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/managing-resources/wildlife/wildlife-disease/north-american-guinea-worm


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Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7764044
01/06/23 08:39 AM
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Now you know where ramen noodles come from.


Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7764048
01/06/23 08:42 AM
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Thanks for all the responses. Learning something new all the time. I guess I’m not very observant because I’ve never noticed them before and I have no doubt they’ve been there after reading about North American guinea worms. Haha. Thanks again


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Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: Michigander] #7764055
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Originally Posted by Michigander
Now you know where ramen noodles come from.


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Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7764101
01/06/23 09:35 AM
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Some years are worse than others for the worms. I recall back in the 90s a year that every raccoon had them, but other years very few show up. I have also seen them in possum, skunk, and otter so they are not just a coon worm.
I don't give it merit, but a coon hunting uncle of mine said they started showing up around here after the flood of 51. He claims before that big flood he never seen them, but has every year sense. I really don't think the flood had anything to do with it, but it dose tell me the things have been around for a long time if he seen them back in the 50s.

Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7764113
01/06/23 09:47 AM
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I haven't found them in a coon yet, but have in otters here.


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Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7764151
01/06/23 10:30 AM
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Andrew, that link I posted said they are water born. Coons get them from eating frogs . If you read it it will make more sense. I think your Uncle may have been right.


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Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7764163
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Gravid adult female D. insignis and D. lutrae are found in the subcutaneous space of the front and hind legs, thorax, abdomen, and groin. The worms are generally in the fascia in the tibial region of the hind leg. The anterior end of the viviparous female penetrates the dermis resulting in the formation of a blister. The blister soon ruptures and an ulcer forms. When the ulcerated area contacts water, the skin over the gravid female ruptures. First-stage larvae are liberated into the water and are ingested by suitable intermediate copepod hosts, the cyclops, Cyclops vernalis and C. bicuspidatus, and possibly other species. The infected cyclops may contain from 1 to 23 larvae, but usually has only 4 or 5 present. After larval ingestion, the copepods may become lethargic and may live only 50 days. The first-stage larvae develop to the infective third-stage larvae in a few weeks.

A paratenic host, such as frogs (leopard frog, Rana pipiens, and green frog, R. clamitans) or fish (rainbow trout, Salmo gairdneri, and white sucker, Catostomus commersoni) may serve as an accumulator of the D. insignis and possibly D. lutrae infective stage larvae by eating the infected cyclops. The accumulation of infective larvae maintains the high prevalence of the worm in the definitive hosts. The infective third-stage larvae probably remain viable in frogs for extended periods of time, so that large numbers of larvae can be ingested by eating a single frog.

The definitive hosts become infected by eating infected reservoir hosts or by drinking water containing parasitized cyclops. The infective larvae are released in the intestinal tract. The larvae penetrate the wall of the host's intestine and migrate through the body cavity to the connective tissues of the abdomen, thorax, and groin. In these preferred locations, the larvae mature, with the prepatent period usually being a year but possibly being as short as 77 days. Following maturity, the worms mate, and egg development in the female occurs.


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Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7764182
01/06/23 11:10 AM
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They are found in the weasel family type critters the MI DNR has a great article on the cycle of the Guinea worms.

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Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7764297
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Andrew an old coon hunter lived across the street from me for years. Bud Demerit. I caught a black coon one year. Big ol gal with beautiful fur. Not melanistic black but lots darker than what we usually get around here. Bud took one look at it and called it a Wisconsin coon. I told him I caught it over by Homewood and he told me something from the 50's. Said a bunch of houndsmen pooled their money and a couple of them drove to WI . They bought live coons. I'm not sure how many But I suspect quite a few. Brought em down here and released them on Middle Creek over by Princeton. They wanted to improve fur quality. Bud said those coon looked a lot like the one I had and he figured it had WI genes.

Pretty good chance your Uncle contributed or knew about it. Coulda been where those worms came from too.


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Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7764309
01/06/23 02:06 PM
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I may have skinned a thousand in Wisconsin and never seen that, used to sell the carcasses to some fellas I had met, I wouldn't have wanted to sell them that coon.


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Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7764326
01/06/23 02:26 PM
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Actually humans can become host to these worms but it would probably be very rare to get it from skinning. You would need to get live larvae or eggs on your hands and somehow transfer it to your mouth.
Drinking infested water is the main way people contract this parasite.

They do have a very interesting life cycle IMO


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Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7764327
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Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7764437
01/06/23 05:29 PM
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My ankles feel kind of itchy all the sudden.


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Re: Worms in raccoons [Re: KsTrapper88] #7764488
01/06/23 06:16 PM
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Only seen them in winter caught fur cycle maybe i'm more worried about roundworms keep yhat in mind when your skinning and staring at that large bunger


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