Re: Frozen Ground
[Re: ranger1]
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01/03/23 11:40 PM
01/03/23 11:40 PM
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Northern Nevada
Bob
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Northern Nevada
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I trapped around Sidney for quite a few years, had the same issues when I lived there. Best bet is to get trap beds dug before the freeze happens. I’ve used a hatchet before, but it’s still a grind. It can help if you toss a handful of calcium chloride in the spot where you want to bed a trap and come back the next day, softens it up some. If you don’t have pre-dug beds, could try to find ways to bed traps on top of the ground, like a hay set or something. Snares are a great asset this time of year in your country too, very effective and a lot less work.
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Re: Frozen Ground
[Re: ranger1]
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01/04/23 07:26 AM
01/04/23 07:26 AM
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SEPA
Lugnut
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Our ground froze solid down about 5-6" or more before Christmas when that cold blast swept the nation. I normally have my traps in before hard freeze but not this year.
I've been using a full size pick axe to chisel sets in. I'll start the bed with the pick then square it off (I use square-jaw traps) with a hatchet I pound on with sodbuster type hammer. I pound/chisel two flats in along the edge of the bed for the levers. I can usually get the trap to bed rock solid if the bed is the right size.
I've been using the pick to put the bait holes in too. I just keep pounding the same spot until I got a small hole about six inches deep. There is no way the groundhog tool will work in that hard ground.
I trap out of my truck, drive right up to most of my sets. So I can carry lots of heavy stuff like the pick (I even brought a posthole bar) that I couldn't do on a walking line.
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Re: Frozen Ground
[Re: ranger1]
#7762344
01/04/23 07:30 AM
01/04/23 07:30 AM
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SEPA
Lugnut
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We snapped the line off a few days ago because things thawed out and the ground got too soft to drive on. We had to walk in to most of our spots. That was okay during Christmas break but now that we are back to work I don't have time to walk in. I am going to run the line and enlarge all the bait holes while the ground is still thawed. I like a 1.5-2" diameter hole as deep as I can make it (8-12").
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Re: Frozen Ground
[Re: ranger1]
#7762383
01/04/23 08:33 AM
01/04/23 08:33 AM
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Joined: Jan 2020
Aliceville, Kansas 45
Yukon John
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Aliceville, Kansas 45
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I know it takes some time but do any of you guys use a weed burner to thaw a trap size spot to scoop out? I could see it being feasible, but we dont really have those conditions here...does it freeze here, yes, but not usually for very long. Just curious.
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Re: Frozen Ground
[Re: ranger1]
#7762396
01/04/23 08:56 AM
01/04/23 08:56 AM
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williamsburg ks
danny clifton
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williamsburg ks
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Yukon John, Look for a dry dirt mine. Under a bridge, inside a barn. When its below 0 and you find loose dirt, your golden. Digging trap beds and driving stakes is still a pain but bed your trap with that dry dirt. I sift it into a five gallon bucket. Then use a one gallon plastic ice cream bucket with a handle to carry dirt to the set. When it starts freezing and thawing blend some table salt into the dirt in layers as you bed. Ranger 1 https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=pulaski%20axe
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Re: Frozen Ground
[Re: danny clifton]
#7762449
01/04/23 10:25 AM
01/04/23 10:25 AM
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Joined: Jan 2020
Aliceville, Kansas 45
Yukon John
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Yukon John, Look for a dry dirt mine. Under a bridge, inside a barn. When its below 0 and you find loose dirt, your golden. Digging trap beds and driving stakes is still a pain but bed your trap with that dry dirt. I sift it into a five gallon bucket. Then use a one gallon plastic ice cream bucket with a handle to carry dirt to the set. When it starts freezing and thawing blend some table salt into the dirt in layers as you bed. Ranger 1 https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=pulaski%20axeThanks Danny, I currently have 3 lick tubs of badger dirt from 2 or 3 yrs ago! The rate I'm going that'll last me a lifetime, lol. I like that axe.
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Re: Frozen Ground
[Re: ranger1]
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01/08/23 01:53 AM
01/08/23 01:53 AM
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Joined: Jan 2016
WI - Wisconsin
AJE
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WI - Wisconsin
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Papio Creek Trapping Supply used to sell a trap bed auger bit. I saw it at a FTA convention. It looked nice but I'm not sure if it would go through what you're describing
Last edited by AJE; 01/08/23 01:53 AM.
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Re: Frozen Ground
[Re: ranger1]
#7765981
01/08/23 09:27 AM
01/08/23 09:27 AM
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Joined: Dec 2008
Eastern Shore of Maryland
HobbieTrapper
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Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Just a couple ideas because I have no experience with what you are dealing with.
Dump a couple piles of salt where you want to make your sets. Go back the following day, scoop the salt and dirt out and put in dirt you can work with.
Get 3 rocks the size of your sets. Use your truck heater to heat them up on the way to your sets. Lay them on the ground for a few minutes while you get your gear ready. Repeat.
Last edited by HobbieTrapper; 01/08/23 09:28 AM.
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Re: Frozen Ground
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
#7766744
01/09/23 02:45 AM
01/09/23 02:45 AM
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Joined: Jan 2016
WI - Wisconsin
AJE
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Just a couple ideas because I have no experience with what you are dealing with.
Dump a couple piles of salt where you want to make your sets. Go back the following day, scoop the salt and dirt out and put in dirt you can work with.
Get 3 rocks the size of your sets. Use your truck heater to heat them up on the way to your sets. Lay them on the ground for a few minutes while you get your gear ready. Repeat. The rock heater idea sounds like a cool idea. I've never thought of that. I don't like the salt idea- it's hard on traps and could attract deer.
Last edited by AJE; 01/09/23 02:45 AM.
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