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Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: Marty] #7766264
01/08/23 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty


Time travel.

Other than that we might be able to rebuild something similar to what we once had after some major catastrophic upheaval but that would take quite a while.

There is really nothing standing in the way of the liberals at this point and that is not going to change, unfortunately.

Someone said we need to start locally....well, Texas is basically behind their governor wanting to stop the flow of new liberal voters but they cannot so forget that idea..same in new mexico? where the governor double stacked containers to block gaps in the border wall only to have to remove them because of a federal lawsuit...so, if a state cannot change anything/protect its border from invasion how are we going to change anything with electing local leaders? There will not be another conservative potus or congress anytime in the near future.

There would be other options but people will not risk their personal wealth/safety on something like freedom. If we were not so soft as a nation maybe that would be different.

Is that specific enough?




Yes. Thank you Marty. I was growing weary of the peeing contest you and your friend were having smile
All and all, the only way out of this mess is Word War III, and I mean a big one. When the terrorists attacked us on 9-11, it brought us all together as a nation for a little while, but that all changed right before the next election cycle when the democrats started calling Bush a war criminal so that they would have something to run on for the midterms. It worked. That was how we got Pelosi.
That's why I say it will need to be World War III to have any chance of bringing us together.
People in this country have it too easy to be motivated enough to start another Revolutionary war. Having said that, attitudes might all change if they disarm us. We won't need no stinking guns to effect the changes necessary to overthrow tyranny.

Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: DaveP] #7766617
01/08/23 09:49 PM
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52carl,

I was not interested in participating in a peeing contest with anyone, I simply asked that person to leave me alone a while ago and kept being poked so I responded. I do not care to be constantly ridiculed and will respond to that although it does get tiresome after a while.

I also appreciate your opinions and agree with what you have had to say, thanks for sharing them.


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Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: DaveP] #7766712
01/08/23 11:45 PM
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All and all, the only way out of this mess is Word War III, and I mean a big one.


Wow, the only way to back to the Bill of Rights is a war with the other half of the world...? If so, we are seriously lost, both morally and probably about any other way. Don't count it turning out like WWII...


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Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: NonPCfed] #7766721
01/09/23 12:19 AM
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All and all, the only way out of this mess is Word War III, and I mean a big one.


Wow, the only way to back to the Bill of Rights is a war with the other half of the world...? If so, we are seriously lost, both morally and probably about any other way. Don't count it turning out like WWII...

I have no delusions that WWIII will be as 'gentle' as WWII was.
I do agree with you about this country being seriously lost.
The Left now owns the media, social media, all government agencies, bureaucracies, the military, public schools and universities, and have effectively made fair elections impossible.
My point was, given all of this, the only thing which has brought this country back from the brink has been war by forcing us to work together for a common cause. It is driven by human nature which I am sure still exists, but it is not coming out right now because people are too comfortable.

Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: DaveP] #7766727
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Does anyone remember when Virginia was a deep Red State. It was only a few years ago. With Republicans in the Governor's office and a majority in the House of Delegates, and with only a very slim democrat margin in the State Senate, it is not as Red as it once was.
That was no accident. We marched on the Capitol in Richmond armed to the teeth and demanded our 2nd amendment sovereignty or we were going to vote them out next election. Guess what happened? We voted them out of office.
We showed up at every city and county council and demanded 2nd Amendment sovereignty. Guess what? Many of these Councils agreed to that because they knew that we would have voted them out if they did not.
There are ways to affect change at the local government level. We proved that.

Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: 52Carl] #7766757
01/09/23 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Originally Posted by NonPCfed


Wow, the only way to back to the Bill of Rights is a war with the other half of the world...? If so, we are seriously lost, both morally and probably about any other way. Don't count it turning out like WWII...

I have no delusions that WWIII will be as 'gentle' as WWII was.
I do agree with you about this country being seriously lost.
The Left now owns the media, social media, all government agencies, bureaucracies, the military, public schools and universities, and have effectively made fair elections impossible.
My point was, given all of this, the only thing which has brought this country back from the brink has been war by forcing us to work together for a common cause. It is driven by human nature which I am sure still exists, but it is not coming out right now because people are too comfortable.


The flaw is “work together”. I don’t believe that will happen as previously.


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Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: DaveP] #7766806
01/09/23 06:25 AM
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Before we start shooting can we at least try a Convention of States? All y'all pessimist can be ready to kill if the optimist plan of stopping the bureaucracy through said convention is ignored by the bureaucracy. If this occurs the optimist better be willing to team up with the pessimist because if convention amendments were ignored then all peaceful options have been exhausted.

Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: ] #7766813
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Before we start shooting can we at least try a Convention of States? All y'all pessimist can be ready to kill if the optimist plan of stopping the bureaucracy through said convention is ignored by the bureaucracy. If this occurs the optimist better be willing to team up with the pessimist because if convention amendments were ignored then all peaceful options have been exhausted.


Okay, but that isn’t looking too promising at the moment.


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Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7766815
01/09/23 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by J Staton
Before we start shooting can we at least try a Convention of States? All y'all pessimist can be ready to kill if the optimist plan of stopping the bureaucracy through said convention is ignored by the bureaucracy. If this occurs the optimist better be willing to team up with the pessimist because if convention amendments were ignored then all peaceful options have been exhausted.


Okay, but that isn’t looking too promising at the moment.

Agreed, but at least when could give it a shot before we start to shoot.

Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: DaveP] #7766819
01/09/23 06:43 AM
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Hoping for the best, preparing for the worse.


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Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: 52Carl] #7766838
01/09/23 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Does anyone remember when Virginia was a deep Red State. It was only a few years ago. With Republicans in the Governor's office and a majority in the House of Delegates, and with only a very slim democrat margin in the State Senate, it is not as Red as it once was.
That was no accident. We marched on the Capitol in Richmond armed to the teeth and demanded our 2nd amendment sovereignty or we were going to vote them out next election. Guess what happened? We voted them out of office.
We showed up at every city and county council and demanded 2nd Amendment sovereignty. Guess what? Many of these Councils agreed to that because they knew that we would have voted them out if they did not.
There are ways to affect change at the local government level. We proved that.



As a participant in quite a few pro.gun rallys, it pains me to say this;
I think it was more the left pushed too far, too fast, and frightened the soccer moms with their defending and sheltering school rapists in Virginia.

Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: DaveP] #7766893
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We, Conservatives are all complicit, This couldnt happen without us. We got bought out by super low interest rates and easy money. We let crap slide as long as our "stocks" went up and we could buy a new truck at 4% interest. We all look the other way when we drive past big dairy farms and landscape companies with mostly illegal alien workforce. Most if not all cashed big covid checks, spent it on toys and such. Easy times create complacency.
Marty is dead wrong, You can not change crap from the top down, You have to start at the local level and work your way up.


Just the right amount of whelm.
Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: 52Carl] #7766978
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Does anyone remember when Virginia was a deep Red State. It was only a few years ago. With Republicans in the Governor's office and a majority in the House of Delegates, and with only a very slim democrat margin in the State Senate, it is not as Red as it once was.
That was no accident. We marched on the Capitol in Richmond armed to the teeth and demanded our 2nd amendment sovereignty or we were going to vote them out next election. Guess what happened? We voted them out of office.
We showed up at every city and county council and demanded 2nd Amendment sovereignty. Guess what? Many of these Councils agreed to that because they knew that we would have voted them out if they did not.
There are ways to affect change at the local government level. We proved that.

Proof positive to my point. If all of us did that in our hometowns, we could make big changes in the right direction. There is hope!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7767016
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by J Staton
Before we start shooting can we at least try a Convention of States? All y'all pessimist can be ready to kill if the optimist plan of stopping the bureaucracy through said convention is ignored by the bureaucracy. If this occurs the optimist better be willing to team up with the pessimist because if convention amendments were ignored then all peaceful options have been exhausted.


Okay, but that isn’t looking too promising at the moment.


How about we compromise?

A convention of states at gunpoint?

I got dibs on holding the gun, lol.


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Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: DaveP] #7767021
01/09/23 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveP
Originally Posted by 52Carl
Does anyone remember when Virginia was a deep Red State. It was only a few years ago. With Republicans in the Governor's office and a majority in the House of Delegates, and with only a very slim democrat margin in the State Senate, it is not as Red as it once was.
That was no accident. We marched on the Capitol in Richmond armed to the teeth and demanded our 2nd amendment sovereignty or we were going to vote them out next election. Guess what happened? We voted them out of office.
We showed up at every city and county council and demanded 2nd Amendment sovereignty. Guess what? Many of these Councils agreed to that because they knew that we would have voted them out if they did not.
There are ways to affect change at the local government level. We proved that.



As a participant in quite a few pro.gun rallys, it pains me to say this;
I think it was more the left pushed too far, too fast, and frightened the soccer moms with their defending and sheltering school rapists in Virginia.


I do believe you are correct. Those soccer moms didn't crossover because Bubba with his mullet and AR15 was sexy.

But now that they are here we have a golden opportunity if we don't blow it. Getting them here was one thing but keeping them here will be the difference.


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Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: Diggerman] #7767023
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
We, Conservatives are all complicit, This couldnt happen without us. We got bought out by super low interest rates and easy money. We let crap slide as long as our "stocks" went up and we could buy a new truck at 4% interest. We all look the other way when we drive past big dairy farms and landscape companies with mostly illegal alien workforce. Most if not all cashed big covid checks, spent it on toys and such. Easy times create complacency.
Marty is dead wrong, You can not change crap from the top down, You have to start at the local level and work your way up.


Give this man a cigar!

That's exactly it, bread and circuses.

To break this cycle there is going to have to some solid lifestyle changes. Some of it is going to hurt but its got to be done for a better life in the future. If not for us then for our grandchildren.


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Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: DaveP] #7767059
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I sure hope I am wrong but it has to be more than possible to change thing, things have to be actually changed. I do not see that happening in very many places but things are being changed for the worse daily all around the land. If you loose ten and gain two that is not a sustainable ratio.

Good luck to everyone.

On a positive note it looks like biden may cut down on illegals crossing in time for it to not be a political issue in 24'.


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Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: warrior] #7767063
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by J Staton
Before we start shooting can we at least try a Convention of States? All y'all pessimist can be ready to kill if the optimist plan of stopping the bureaucracy through said convention is ignored by the bureaucracy. If this occurs the optimist better be willing to team up with the pessimist because if convention amendments were ignored then all peaceful options have been exhausted.


Okay, but that isn’t looking too promising at the moment.


Originally Posted by warrior
How about we compromise?

A convention of states at gunpoint?

I got dibs on holding the gun, lol.


We are going to have to shoot 3 or 4 to let them know we are serious. Maybe I better hold the gun?


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Originally Posted by DaveP
Originally Posted by 52Carl
Does anyone remember when Virginia was a deep Red State. It was only a few years ago. With Republicans in the Governor's office and a majority in the House of Delegates, and with only a very slim democrat margin in the State Senate, it is not as Red as it once was.
That was no accident. We marched on the Capitol in Richmond armed to the teeth and demanded our 2nd amendment sovereignty or we were going to vote them out next election. Guess what happened? We voted them out of office.
We showed up at every city and county council and demanded 2nd Amendment sovereignty. Guess what? Many of these Councils agreed to that because they knew that we would have voted them out if they did not.
There are ways to affect change at the local government level. We proved that.



As a participant in quite a few pro.gun rallys, it pains me to say this;
I think it was more the left pushed too far, too fast, and frightened the soccer moms with their defending and sheltering school rapists in Virginia.


Originally Posted by warrior
I do believe you are correct. Those soccer moms didn't crossover because Bubba with his mullet and AR15 was sexy.

But now that they are here we have a golden opportunity if we don't blow it. Getting them here was one thing but keeping them here will be the difference.


Meh, they are the same ones that were okay saddling those same children with a mountain of debt over mean tweets. I ain’t a fan just yet.


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Re: The Coup We Never Knew... [Re: DaveP] #7767072
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Thats where education comes in. We have to talk to these folks whether we like the purple hair and nose rings or not.


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