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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Wolfdog91] #7768396
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Wolfdog91] #7768397
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Thats my take on it too Posco. That is His promise, and He does not lie.


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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Wolfdog91] #7768523
01/10/23 10:42 PM
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Apparently y'all weren't following along at all if you got lost at repentance is not necessary for salvation.

Biblical repentance is necessary. There is not one verse in the Bible that says the phrases "repent of sin" your preachers and teachers were taught this horse feathers from Scofield and the like. I'd love for someone to share the "repent of sin" verse I haven't read. I already shared the only verse in the Bible that discusses the topic and God called it their "works" to "turn from their evil way"

It's like the people that are knocking biblical doctrine in this post are completely bilnd and cannot read.

Here is the verse again. Don't get lost. Let me know if I need to slow down for you..

Jonah 3:9-10 KJV
Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not? [10] And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

In the verse it defines repent as to turn, say who can tell if God will turn and repent. Then it called turning from your evil way which another way of saying repent of sins , works. Read the scripture don't believe me

God saw their WORKS, that they turned from evil way, and "he did it not" meaning he repented from destroying them

If repenting of sin is a work and the Holy Spirit defines it in Jonah 3 then no one has to turn from their evil way to be saved because salvation is a gift of God, not of works lest any man(all of you) should boast.

And if repent simply means to turn from sin then God turning and repenting means he was a sinner that turned from sin? NO

Sorry guys this is another doctrine that nearly all church going Christians don't understand.... I wonder why?


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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Wolfdog91] #7768532
01/10/23 10:54 PM
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Oops.


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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7768535
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Oops.

He's digging a deeper hole and you picked up it. Good for you.

Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Wolfdog91] #7768539
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Oh My !

Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: ] #7768542
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Originally Posted by Posco
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Oops.

He's digging a deeper hole and you picked up it. Good for you.


The amount of effort he has put in it he should be close to digging out the other side already, lol!

Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Wolfdog91] #7768543
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Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine....
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Wolfdog91] #7768544
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Wolfdog91] #7768551
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Luke and Mathew…..

When Jesus instructs us how to pray, what do you think it means when we ask forgiveness of our sins/debts?
That’s the most basic understanding of repentance I can think of.


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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Chancey] #7768555
01/10/23 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Chancey
Luke and Mathew…..

When Jesus instructs us how to pray, what do you think it means when we ask forgiveness of our sins/debts?
That’s the most basic understanding of repentance I can think of.


Our ask is tied to our action in that prayer.


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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Wolfdog91] #7768562
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Is that any different from repenting Hobbie?


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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Wolfdog91] #7768563
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Luke 13:3 You can take it on Ken's authority or you can look to Jesus.

Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Wolfdog91] #7768566
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Maybe there is not a specific Bible verse, but I was always taught and still believe from my reading that when I screw up, I need to pray to God and ask for forgiveness (repent), and then STOP committing that sin.


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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Wolfdog91] #7768568
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Thanks Posco, I was typing when you posted.


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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Wolfdog91] #7768569
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I do not believe repenting is the equivalent to asking forgiveness because they can be accomplished individually.


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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Chancey] #7768574
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Originally Posted by Chancey
Thanks Posco, I was typing when you posted.

You bet. Repentance always precedes faith/belief in the NT. If anyone can find a verse with the order reversed, please point it out.

Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Wolfdog91] #7768590
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If I ask forgiveness with no intention of not doing it again then I was not sorrowful nor remorseful for doing it in the first place. .

If I separate repentance from faith and don't believe He forgives me nor that he has the power to, then I have swept the evil spirit out by repenting and would now have a clean empty house and the evil spirit would return finding my house (heart) empty and would invite his friends over and I would be worse off than at the beginning.

Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Wolfdog91] #7768600
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When the disciples first followed Jesus because He asked them to and they proclaimed “they had found the Messiah,” was it faith that led them to believe that or had they relented before meeting Jesus?

While there is not exact wording of faith before repentance, there is clearly implication that they had faith He was who they thought He was. Perhaps their repentance wasn’t important enough to be note worthy.

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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east [Re: Wolfdog91] #7768608
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Where was Judas's faith. He was walking by sight and faith. He saw Jesus heal his father Simon the leper , yet did he repent of what he was about to do for 30 pieces of silver. No or he would not have done it, you can't repent of future sin and still do it ?

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