Re: Wisconsin late bobcat season opens tomorrow
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I haven’t experienced a cat refusing due to skunky lure because I don’t use skunky lure. The reason I don’t use it is because a guy I know very well who’s been trapping cats since before I was born, and has caught well in excess of 1,000 bobcats all over the state of Nevada, told me that he has on many occasions had a cat avoid a set that was lured with a skunky lure. When he stopped using the skunky lure, he stopped having cats avoid sets. So do with that information what you will. What long distance call lure is recommended? Windwalker is mostly what I am using now.
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Re: Wisconsin late bobcat season opens tomorrow
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AJE the next time I check I’ll take some real good pics and post them. Here’s a couple so-so pics It’s hard to tell but that big rock on the right serves as the blocking on that side, it’s pretty much a vertical rock ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/01/full-2244-164312-9a3999c3_4bda_4803_8340_63d824dc6488.jpeg) This one looks like there’s a bare spot on the right, but there isn’t, the sticks are just stained the same color as the dirt. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/01/full-2244-164313-fdc08c6b_dd37_4230_a817_8b90e2d3039b.jpeg)
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Re: Wisconsin late bobcat season opens tomorrow
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Your trying to guide cats when u should be blocking them. I struggle to change gears between cats and coyotes too but a few misses in snow will learn ya fast. Lol So are you suggesting we use less fencing?
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Re: Wisconsin late bobcat season opens tomorrow
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01/10/23 11:54 PM
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In that last pic, before I made the set, there was no brush there. I moved all of that there to create a pinch point between a drop off and a cliff face. That’s what I mean by brushing in sets, I make the cat use the trail I want it to. It’s only other option is to cross the wash and use the trail on the other side, or go up the hill and around the top of the cliff, but guess what? Either way it decides to go, I’ve put a trap there. I have 4 sets there, every trail in that wash, bout 150’ wide, either has a trap in it or is blocked off with thick brush.
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Re: Wisconsin late bobcat season opens tomorrow
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01/11/23 12:01 AM
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I use some bobcat gland, sometimes, but not a whole lot. The guy I learned from taught me that you really don’t need to, all you have to do is put a properly blocked trap in a cats way and you’ll catch it the vast majority of the time. How do you get in a cats way? You take away every option that doesn’t lead to a trap. A lot of the time we will go out starting in September brushing off trails and moving rocks, creating pinch points to funnel cats into sets
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Re: Wisconsin late bobcat season opens tomorrow
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Your trying to guide cats when u should be blocking them. I struggle to change gears between cats and coyotes too but a few misses in snow will learn ya fast. Lol So are you suggesting we use less fencing? I thinks he’s suggesting MORE blocking. Like he said, it’s blocking, not guiding. You’re forcing the cat to step in a certain spot, by blocking off all other options.
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Re: Wisconsin late bobcat season opens tomorrow
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Lure can be a help or a hindrance on bobcats, placed 18” above the set on a rock or stick, if they like it they’ll rub their face on it like a house at rubbing on peoples legs. Sometimes though they will avoid a set because the lure is too strong, especially with skunky stuff, the intensity can be unpleasant to them.
Interesting. What about bait? Thanks for all the info so far guys.
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Re: Wisconsin late bobcat season opens tomorrow
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Lure, bait, they probably catch their fair share of cats. But all of the guys I know that catch 50-100 bobcats a year exclusively use exposed walkthrough sets, no bait and very little if any lure. I’ve never caught a cat in a baited set.
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Re: Wisconsin late bobcat season opens tomorrow
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Lure, bait, they probably catch their fair share of cats. But all of the guys I know that catch 50-100 bobcats a year exclusively use exposed walkthrough sets, no bait and very little if any lure. I’ve never caught a cat in a baited set. I have bait & bobcat urine at my sets too, along with fish oil. Our terrain & conditions seem harder to funnel them naturally than what some of you are describing, but I could be wrong
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Re: Wisconsin late bobcat season opens tomorrow
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And of course I check my cameras this weekend and on the backside of the property where I have caught nothing but possums so I pulled my two traps... Do you use cable restraints & 160 conibears too? Maybe try calling that cat (predator hunting). Good luck.
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Re: Wisconsin late bobcat season opens tomorrow
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Aje didn't you say a friend had game camera pics of cats ? Go set those spots and block them to go exactly where you want them, it doesn't have to be natural blocking as in already there . You can block using natural materials found there even 10 to 15 feet on each side or more just make sure they can't get through it . You can even leave sets n multiple spots in the blocking. If its in open or next to open areas use some type of flagging to get them to the area you want them to walk.
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Re: Wisconsin late bobcat season opens tomorrow
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Aje didn't you say a friend had game camera pics of cats ? Go set those spots and block them to go exactly where you want them, it doesn't have to be natural blocking as in already there . You can block using natural materials found there even 10 to 15 feet on each side or more just make sure they can't get through it . You can even leave sets n multiple spots in the blocking. If its in open or next to open areas use some type of flagging to get them to the area you want them to walk. Yes, and I made a set at each of those 3 locations last night.  They were open enough areas to where I hung a CD at each set. I've considered putting a second trap at some sets
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Re: Wisconsin late bobcat season opens tomorrow
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Second trap can’t hurt anything. In your situation, only getting a tag every once in a while, if I was you I’d have every trap I owned set in catty places, sign, no sign, don’t matter. If it looks like a cat might go there, set it, till you run out of traps
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Re: Wisconsin late bobcat season opens tomorrow
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I should Bob. I will keep adding some. Right now I only have 10 traps out. I work too much. I did more scouting tonight & worked on more connections for possible new hot locations.
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Re: Wisconsin late bobcat season opens tomorrow
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You & I can relate indeed, platte. Except I have too much snow. Nasty ice storm came thru last night so I went out & got half my traps re-functioning this AM. Warm temps now all week. I will deal w/ the other half after work. The weather has been strange. Normally I should have more sets out than I do now. Time like you say is such a limiting factor. Good luck to you.
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Re: Wisconsin late bobcat season opens tomorrow
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Aje didn't you say a friend had game camera pics of cats ? Go set those spots and block them to go exactly where you want them, it doesn't have to be natural blocking as in already there . You can block using natural materials found there even 10 to 15 feet on each side or more just make sure they can't get through it . You can even leave sets n multiple spots in the blocking. If its in open or next to open areas use some type of flagging to get them to the area you want them to walk. For what it is worth, I get lots of gamer camera pictures in the fall of cats. By the time our cat season opens in late December, the cats have moved and aren't there anymore. They didn't move 20 miles away but they moved into heavy cover with less snow and where there is food. Think bunnies would be my advice in the Lake States right now. Set on or near rabbit trails. That is where the cats are going to be and following deer trails. IMO cats are lazy and will walk the path of least resistance like frozen creeks, deer trails and snowmobile trails.
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