Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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Salvation is monergistic, a supernatural work of God.
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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Yeah walking in the spirit is t easy even for the best of men
Matthew 7:6 KJV Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine.... -OFBA, NTA, FTA, TTFHA-
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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The daily verse on my app was verse 6 out of chapter 8 Romans 8:6 KJV For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Salvation is easy, anyone can do it. Just believe. Don't add to it and it won't fail
Matthew 7:6 KJV Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine.... -OFBA, NTA, FTA, TTFHA-
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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Ken, Your style of individualistic theology, as it's known, is a 20th century phenomenon. Nowhere in the 2000 year history of the Christian Church since the Incarnation have individuals sought truth by their lonesome. Do you think individualism has merit?
Blessings, Mark
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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I'm never alone Mark I have the Holy Ghost. And I'm not sure where I came off as being alone or doing everything on my lonesome. I attended church for many years even preached in church. Grew up going to church and spent half of my adult life if church. I just don't take anything man says at face value unless it aligns with the Word of God
Matthew 7:6 KJV Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine.... -OFBA, NTA, FTA, TTFHA-
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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Help us who don't see as you do, how we are to love God and in that, love one another if we don't gather as the ecclesia?
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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Ken, Your style of individualistic theology, as it's known, is a 20th century phenomenon. Nowhere in the 2000 year history of the Christian Church since the Incarnation have individuals sought truth by their lonesome. Do you think individualism has merit?
Blessings, Mark Not sure where you pulled that from lol, and I know it's directed to Ken but I would take what you call Individualism over the dispensationalism you're being feed down there where the foundation stones were set with Man's word. Seriously, nowhere in 2000 years people have not sought out the one and only God on their own? Where do you get this stuff? So your saying people haven't and can't come to God without support? We're not talking about where two or more shall gather, but one person can't find God, accept Christ alone?
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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Salvation is monergistic, a supernatural work of God. Unless of course, you're Arminian, and then there is a human role involvement. Me, I figure if Jesus walked in the room and stood next to me, He'd be the 100% and I'd be so small, even 0% is an exaggeration. Blessings, Mark
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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Ken, Your style of individualistic theology, as it's known, is a 20th century phenomenon. Nowhere in the 2000 year history of the Christian Church since the Incarnation have individuals sought truth by their lonesome. Do you think individualism has merit?
Blessings, Mark Not sure where you pulled that from lol, and I know it's directed to Ken but I would take what you call Individualism over the dispensationalism you're being feed down there where the foundation stones were set with Man's word. Seriously, nowhere in 2000 years people have not sought out the one and only God on their own? Where do you get this stuff? So your saying people haven't and can't come to God without support? We're not talking about where two or more shall gather, but one person can't find God, accept Christ alone? You're off course Catch. Where two or more gathered is about church discipline and as to whether people seek God on their own, that depends on how grand you consider the Grace of God? Individualism is the term used in theology to describe those who don't believe they need to participate in the Church that Christ ordained upon His Ascension. Why even read the Book of Acts, which is about the beginnings of the Christian Church, if we decide we don't need it? I wasn't making stuff up and you can do more Google searches to find it if you'd like. We're called as children of God, to gather as the ecclesia - the Church. And up until the 20th century, there was never any orthodox (right thinging) theological history that believed otherwise. Satan's scheme is to divide as God gathers people to Himself. Satan can't stop God from calling. Satan is powerless to stop Christ's redeeming and the Spirit's sealing of those called..... BUT, He sure tries to coerce those called into thinking they are fine and dandy all by their lonesome. Blessings, Mark
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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To and your question I believe we should all be of one mind when it comes to Christ and him crucified. I personally don't know anything about individualism or it's connection to modern times and religion.
When thinking about my answer to your question this verse popped in my head
1 Corinthians 2:2 KJV For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
This is what we need to know not hermeneutics or any kind of private interpretation of men we only need the scripture and the Holy Spirit with this any saved man can understand the Bible.
1 Corinthians 2 is great, really touches much of the subject matter in this thread. 1 Corinthians 2:11-16 KJV For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. [12] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. [13] Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. [14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. [15] But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. [16] For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
Matthew 7:6 KJV Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine.... -OFBA, NTA, FTA, TTFHA-
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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Salvation is monergistic, a supernatural work of God. Unless of course, you're Arminian, and then there is a human role involvement. The unregenerate man cannot breathe life into himself, he is dead in trespasses and sins. He doesn't seek after God, he hides from God as did Adam. God comes calling and awakens the sinner and shows the sinner his need.
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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Help us who don't see as you do, how we are to love God and in that, love one another if we don't gather as the ecclesia? I never said that you shouldn't Mark. I believe being together with believers is a great thing. Somehow my distain for bad doctrine has turned me into this individualist outlier that maybe believes in a one man home church or something? Idk I just believe the Bible and can easily recognize flase doctrine when I see it.
Matthew 7:6 KJV Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine.... -OFBA, NTA, FTA, TTFHA-
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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It's the Bible that says you have no need that any man teach you. I just repeated it.
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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Mark, I don't see myself off course, I see you putting your own personal beliefs to the word. You spin Matthew 18;20 into how those two consider the Grace of God where I see it as truth in the word, where two or more shall gather he is with them.
There are Scriptures about the Church and gathering in belief. However I hold strong that any Man or Women can find, accept our Lord and Savior on their own, as a individual. You don't need to be in Church to accept Christ as your Savior, the road to Damascus proved that.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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It's God's will that all men would be saved, not just the ones we believe are called.
2 Peter 3:9 KJV The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJV Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. [5] For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; [6] Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
There is one mediator that's Jesus. We have no need of organized religion it's too big, it becomes as successful as the federal govt and fails the individual. It's important for people in their local area to meet together, to know each other, to fellowship. I don't think I ever said anything to the contrary.
Matthew 7:6 KJV Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine.... -OFBA, NTA, FTA, TTFHA-
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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And to add to that no man can hide from God. In the future men will hide in the rocks trying to hide themselves from the face of Jesus at his return. Even the unsaved are convicted of their sin, but they didn't believe.
Revelation 6:15-17 KJV And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; [16] And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: [17] For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Matthew 7:6 KJV Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine.... -OFBA, NTA, FTA, TTFHA-
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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To and your question I believe we should all be of one mind when it comes to Christ and him crucified. I personally don't know anything about individualism or it's connection to modern times and religion.
When thinking about my answer to your question this verse popped in my head
1 Corinthians 2:2 KJV For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
This is what we need to know not hermeneutics or any kind of private interpretation of men we only need the scripture and the Holy Spirit with this any saved man can understand the Bible.
1 Corinthians 2 is great, really touches much of the subject matter in this thread. 1 Corinthians 2:11-16 KJV For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. [12] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. [13] Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. [14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. [15] But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. [16] For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. Well, the Pharisees were separatists too. Pharisee is from the Hebrew persahin, from parash, “to separate." Believers are called and wondrously the ecclesia - the church - and Scripture is our guide in this. The New Testament pattern of church life is that believers come together on the first day of the week to worship and serve the Lord, and that they regularly come together at the Lord’s Table to remember his death on their behalf (1 Cor. 11; 1 Cor. 16:2; Heb. 10:24–26). In it all, it reflects a growing commitment to the gospel, the longing for the good of the church community, and our own spiritual health. Blessings, Mark
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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It's God's will that all men would be saved But all men are not saved. Salvation is monergistic, God does the seeking. John 3:8
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Re: Mark of the beast comes from the middle east
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Any church leader and most people calling themselves faithful to God know challenges face the Christian church in the West, one of the biggest being "expressive individualism"—the be true to yourself mindset that finds self-fulfillment and expression as the highest goal of life.
I like this summary commentary that I've used in church before; "In this type of society - expressive individualism - isolation and loneliness become more common, in part because people resist relationships that include obligations that may infringe upon their understanding of personal freedom and autonomy. When the purpose of life is reconceived around finding one’s deepest self and expressing it to the world (as opposed to whatever constraints your family, church, society, or politics may put on you), then all of our most significant relationships become recast in light of personal self-development."
So here we are, those gathered by God's grace, humbly gathered together to encourage one another until Christ returns. It's God's plan, so we praise Him.
Blessings, Mark
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