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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7774612
01/17/23 12:07 PM
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When was or is it used to intentionally deceive?


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7774624
01/17/23 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
When was or is it used to intentionally deceive?

When they use it as an end all be all determination of the age of something. When they use it as positive proof to support their theory.

Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7774645
01/17/23 01:08 PM
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Its not perfect but I do not think the earth is only 7000 years old. I think humans did breed with Neanderthals.

I dont buy that Europeans lost black skin adapting to cold weather. The Indians in Siberia Alaska and Canada have brown skin and they been there a long time. I think there is a LOT we still dont know. I got no problems with them continuing to look.

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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7774732
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A species does not evolve to survive, a species survives to evolve

Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: WhiteCliffs] #7774988
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Originally Posted by WhiteCliffs
A species does not evolve to survive, a species survives to evolve


I'm not convinced of that. All species are constantly in the process of evolving, whether they need to or not. The process of genetic variation allows them to adapt if climate or habitat changes. If both are stable, the genetic variants are simply cast aside though natural mortality.

Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7775019
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If Carbon 14 dating is accurate as academia, the museums, and science tells us it is, then they should allow all of their dinosaur bones to be C-14 dated.

They will not though. Why? Well, the answer is easy, it's because they say only a fool would date a dino bone via C-14 as THEY KNOW that dinos are millions of years old and C-14 is only good for 50K years.

So instead, they date the layers of volcanic ash below and and above the dino bones within a so called geologic formation and say that the bones are the same age as the rocks.

I don't necessarily think the earth is 6000 years old exactly, but I dang sure don't think its millions of years old.


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7775117
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
the bible says god is Alpha and Omega. I interpret that as no beginning and no end. MAYBE time isnt linear. Maybe its a circle.

I like your concept Dany. And I'm not being smart . There's another theory that God lives outside of time , maybe we are an apointed time with a purpose. And God can see all of his created time beginning to end From out side.
Just a thought.


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7775124
01/17/23 10:54 PM
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It's not a theory. God created time, Genesis chapter 1 verse 5.

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. - Genesis1:5 AKJV

God is not constrained by time. He is eternal.

It is we who are finite in our understanding of time.


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: warrior] #7775142
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Originally Posted by warrior
It's not a theory. God created time, Genesis chapter 1 verse 5.

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. - Genesis1:5 AKJV

God is not constrained by time. He is eternal.

It is we who are finite in our understanding of time.

Good point.


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: warrior] #7775163
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Originally Posted by warrior
It's not a theory. God created time, Genesis chapter 1 verse 5.

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. - Genesis1:5 AKJV

God is not constrained by time. He is eternal.

It is we who are finite in our understanding of time.


I don't believe we can in our finite condition wrap our brains around the absence of time, everything here in this world is bound by time..


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: danny clifton] #7775190
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Time is merely a convenience for man. This world is much more interesting IMO. Different dimensions, portals, etc.

We base the past on what we know today as if the past held the same physical and chemical properties then as they do now. I don't think that is the case at all. I think the world was a very different place before the fall of mankind in Eden. I also think it changed enormously again after the flood. Trying to hold todays standards to that time period is like comparing apples to oranges IMO.


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: grumley701] #7775199
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Originally Posted by grumley701
Originally Posted by warrior
It's not a theory. God created time, Genesis chapter 1 verse 5.

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. - Genesis1:5 AKJV

God is not constrained by time. He is eternal.

It is we who are finite in our understanding of time.


I don't believe we can in our finite condition wrap our brains around the absence of time, everything here in this world is bound by time..


Ain't that the truth. The concept of eternal Alpha and Omega is beyond anything we can fathom.


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: Chancey] #7775201
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Originally Posted by Chancey
Time is merely a convenience for man. This world is much more interesting IMO. Different dimensions, portals, etc.

We base the past on what we know today as if the past held the same physical and chemical properties then as they do now. I don't think that is the case at all. I think the world was a very different place before the fall of mankind in Eden. I also think it changed enormously again after the flood. Trying to hold todays standards to that time period is like comparing apples to oranges IMO.

I would agree.


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Re: evidence of evolution or nonsense? [Re: forestman3] #7775705
01/18/23 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by forestman3
Adaptation yes.Evolution no such thing.


They are the same thing. If you need proof for evolution look at viruses. They change (evolve) to continue on. The Flu, Covid, etc. This is evolution in action.
You have organs in your body you no longer need. That is an example evolution. You can check out this video as well for more proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plVk4NVIUh8


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