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Atheism is inherently evil in both definition and #7774754
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Its a belief in nothing.


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Originally Posted by seniortrap
Its a belief in nothing.


What if you believe in something and it turns out not to be true.


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Atheism is not a belief in nothing, or the belief that there is no God. Atheism is the denial of the existence of God.

Big difference.

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You'd have to believe there is a God to deny existence, no?

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Sam is right IMHO. They are taking what he said out of context, as usual. Of course he wasn't hoping more kids died. And he's right about Trump.
Blaze media, just another conspiracy website.

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Originally Posted by trapdog1
You'd have to believe there is a God to deny existence, no?


No. We just want proof. In 2,000+ years that hasn't happened yet. A book of fairy tales doesn't count as proof.

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Originally Posted by trapdog1
You'd have to believe there is a God to deny existence, no?


Exactly. Now you're on the right track.

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Originally Posted by trapdog1
You'd have to believe there is a God to deny existence, no?

This would be a good phrase for the oxymoron post. whistle


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Originally Posted by Tommyran
Originally Posted by trapdog1
You'd have to believe there is a God to deny existence, no?


No. We just want proof. In 2,000+ years that hasn't happened yet. A book of fairy tales doesn't count as proof.


Of course the oldest and most reliable history book ever written that has been proven accurate with thousands of other historical documents and written testimonies of eye-witnesses is just a book of fairly tales.

If you want proof, look deep into your heart of hearts. You know he exists, you really do! Guaranteed. You can spend your life and energies denying it, and get angry towards anyone who calls you out on it, but it's there. All the proof you ever needed is there you just need to stop fighting it.

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The dude literally said we were unlucky not to have kids dying from covid so he could impose his will on others in regards to the proven to be ineffective and proven to be harmful "vaccine".

He also is on record as saying bodies in Hunter Biden’s basement is fully acceptable as long as any method, including known lies, is used to take down Trump.

You God haters are just as evil. But that's right you deny the existence of even the concept of evil. For if there is no Supreme Good then it's counter must not exist.


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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Originally Posted by trapdog1
You'd have to believe there is a God to deny existence, no?

This would be a good phrase for the oxymoron post. whistle

Yes, it would!
I am a believer, but mostly keep it to myself and am quiet about it. That's what I'm comfortable with. I reckon everyone else can do it their way too.

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Originally Posted by warrior

You God haters are just as evil. But that's right you deny the existence of even the concept of evil. For if there is no Supreme Good then it's counter must not exist.


I have net opened the link you started this thread off with. My response is just to the quoted sentence of your.

I find it pretty impossible to hate something that does not exist. One does not have to believe in an invisible friend to know the difference between good and evil.
How much hatred and frustration do you have pent up within yourself to make what are quite frankly reasonless accusations about people that you clearly know nothing about painting them with such a broad brush.
I find it quite easy to do good for people without believing in a religion of any form.

When I encounter a bad situation I don't have the option to sit back and either say ( its gods will or pray a but to hope it gets better ) I have to either live with it or actively do something about it as I can't just put the blame as it were on some imaginary being.

There is nothing evil about that approach to life in my book, your milage is obviously different and I feel sorry for you to be honest.


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Humans have, and I expect always will, attribute to a supreme being that which they cannot understand. Its a stopgap to retain sanity instead of falling into the abyss pondering the mysteries beyond understanding. It is also comforting to think there is some way out of our personal troubles beyond what we can make happen. I have a friend who repeatedly makes my point when we discuss whether or not a supreme being exists.
He says "well if God didn't create the universe, what did?" I can't think of a weaker argument for the existence of a supreme being. I prefer to be satisfied with saying "I don't know how the universe was created. I, like everyone else, do wish there was some way out of my personal troubles other than what humans can provide, but I just don't believe there is. I was happy that when a good friend was dying from cancer at 45 that he and his wife were comforted by the belief that it was "God's will." I just think he got screwed by fate. Why is that evil of me? I have adopted the Judeo-Christian moral doctrine but don't believe in deity worship. How does that make me evil?


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Originally Posted by EdP
I have adopted the Judeo-Christian moral doctrine but don't believe in deity worship. How does that make me evil?


That is exactly my point and it does not make us evil. And do not let anyone make you believe otherwise.
I for one am very suspicious of people that say that I am evil without even knowing me. Just because I don't believe in their invisible friend. If someone tries that route, they can peddle that BS at someone else's door, because it just does not fly with me. I can't help but feel sorry for them but will not go down that path to argue the facts with them. Just not worth it to be honest.


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Originally Posted by Scuba1
Originally Posted by EdP
I have adopted the Judeo-Christian moral doctrine but don't believe in deity worship. How does that make me evil?


That is exactly my point and it does not make us evil. And do not let anyone make you believe otherwise.
I for one am very suspicious of people that say that I am evil without even knowing me. Just because I don't believe in their invisible friend. If someone tries that route, they can peddle that BS at someone else's door, because it just does not fly with me. I can't help but feel sorry for them but will not go down that path to argue the facts with them. Just not worth it to be honest.

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So:
  • how many religions are there?
  • how many g(G)ods are there?
  • Which of these religions and/or gods is the correct one?
I think mine is correct; making you evil if you refuse to comply.

Well, OK, I really don't give a rat's butt what anyone else thinks, you believe what you want and let me believe what I want. I ain't too sure but I think this country has some kind of document giving us the right to believe, or not, as we choose.


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Originally Posted by T-Rex
So:
  • how many religions are there?
  • how many g(G)ods are there?
  • Which of these religions and/or gods is the correct one?
I think mine is correct; making you evil if you refuse to comply.

Now your getting it ! Honestly when Christiana start doing this it makes of no different to most other religions. That or when a non believer asks whats the proof the Bible is true and we just say " well the bible is proof that it's real" like.....yeah.....makay.


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Truth is when the Word and the Deed (history and actions) become one. Many gods have tried it, but peculiarly, they seem to not have the ability to see into the future.
The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob does and has proven it again and again. We can deny it all we want, but that don't make it not true.


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