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Re: Batterie tools [Re: Scuba1] #7773882
01/16/23 04:56 PM
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Do any of these tools have batteries that will interchange with other manufacturers?

Re: Batterie tools [Re: Scuba1] #7774485
01/17/23 09:25 AM
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The old ryobi batteries were pretty bad, the newer Lithium ones are much better, That said I'm not using them hard every day but they havn't let me down...

Re: Batterie tools [Re: Scuba1] #7774493
01/17/23 09:42 AM
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I've had DeWalt, Bosch and Makita- nothing has compared to my Milwaukee M18 Fuel Cordless Tools.
Milwaukee is owned by Hong Kong based Techtronic's Industries, they also own Ryobi and a few other opening price point cordless products. In my opinion, no one comes close for innovation, if you check out their "Pipeline" online you'll see a plethora of New Product Development and Continuous Improvement concepts. I believe they also private label Hart tools that you find at a big box store i.e.' Walmart- here's a couple other brands you will recognize:

Brands
MILWAUKEE
AEG
RYOBI
HOMELITE
EMPIRE
IMPERIAL BLADES
STILETTO
KANGO
HART
HOOVER
ORECK
VAX
DIRT DEVIL

Re: Batterie tools [Re: YamaCat] #7774509
01/17/23 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by YamaCat
Do any of these tools have batteries that will interchange with other manufacturers?


there are some aftermarket adapters but no , no company has done a universal battery , this is why you are buying the tool/battery platform when you choose what to go with

the better tools and batteries have communications links , to let the tool know the battery temp and current draw from the battery side

some even have blue tooth communications tool to your phone , they can put so many more options in a tool than the buttons they can put on the outside of the tool reasonably.

Milwakee has OneKey enabled tools , this you can locate , lock and unlock your tool from your phone even if it is not near you , so say your expensive impact grows legs and it is that guy on the far end of the shop who "borrows" it you can locate it and lock it
if it is stolen and the one key enabled tool gets close to another mechanic with onekey on his phone it tells the network where your tool is and you can lock it. I don't own any of these but I was doing a bunch of reading on it last year.


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Re: Batterie tools [Re: Scuba1] #7774513
01/17/23 09:59 AM
01/17/23 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
The admiral had a semi complete set of ryobi batterie tools. The batteries were not worth a darn. I got so frustrated with the stuff that i put it next to the boat and went out then and got the De Walt stuff to replace it.

I bet those were the blue tools...first Generation batteries


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Re: Batterie tools [Re: Eagleye] #7774514
01/17/23 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Eagleye
I've had DeWalt, Bosch and Makita- nothing has compared to my Milwaukee M18 Fuel Cordless Tools.
Milwaukee is owned by Hong Kong based Techtronic's Industries, they also own Ryobi and a few other opening price point cordless products.

the company that is the parent of Milwaukee tool owns Rigid and Ryobi

Rigid is the mid grade line sort of a very active homeowner or occasional use contractor, they often try things on Rigid before they become a feature on the Milwaukee line

there was a Rigid High torque impact that actually beat the Milwaukee in head to head torque tests , guess what the news specs were in the Milwaukee line a year later.

Ryobi is the home owners budget grade


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Re: Batterie tools [Re: Scuba1] #7774515
01/17/23 10:02 AM
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I have been using Ryobi and Rigid tools for many years. Only burned up a couple in my lifetime and have a bunch of batteriies and a few chargers on hand.

Re: Batterie tools [Re: YamaCat] #7774517
01/17/23 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by YamaCat
Do any of these tools have batteries that will interchange with other manufacturers?

My Son in law just bought and showed me the adapter he bought from Amazon $15. Allows him to use his battery from another brand in his Ryobi Sawzall ( we bought him ) we were told wrong on what he owned.


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Re: Batterie tools [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7774528
01/17/23 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
Originally Posted by Eagleye
I've had DeWalt, Bosch and Makita- nothing has compared to my Milwaukee M18 Fuel Cordless Tools.
Milwaukee is owned by Hong Kong based Techtronic's Industries, they also own Ryobi and a few other opening price point cordless products.

the company that is the parent of Milwaukee tool owns Rigid and Ryobi

Rigid is the mid grade line sort of a very active homeowner or occasional use contractor, they often try things on Rigid before they become a feature on the Milwaukee line

there was a Rigid High torque impact that actually beat the Milwaukee in head to head torque tests , guess what the news specs were in the Milwaukee line a year later.

Ryobi is the home owners budget grade


I think when people say they like a certain product- they like the price point and the tool performance meets their needs, that's a good customer experience... that's what the Good, Better, Best strategy of these private labeled products tries to achieve. I expect a lot from tool performance and willing to pay for it, even though I'm not a contractor. These brands also allow bundling by retailers and home centers that makes shopping the category harder on the consumer- you struggle to get a low-cost comparable tool for tool. The Home Depot license's brands that have higher brand awareness, Rigid, Ryobi, etc. Lowes invented their own brands, TaskForce, Kobalt, growing those brands organically- following the Behr paint success at THD.

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Re: Batterie tools [Re: Eagleye] #7774574
01/17/23 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Eagleye


I think when people say they like a certain product- they like the price point and the tool performance meets their needs, that's a good customer experience... that's what the Good, Better, Best strategy of these private labeled products tries to achieve. I expect a lot from tool performance and willing to pay for it, even though I'm not a contractor. These brands also allow bundling by retailers and home centers that makes shopping the category harder on the consumer- you struggle to get a low-cost comparable tool for tool. The Home Depot license's brands that have higher brand awareness, Rigid, Ryobi, etc. Lowes invented their own brands, TaskForce, Kobalt, growing those brands organically- following the Behr paint success at THD.
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it is very much perception thing
much like the chainsaws are , people have no idea what cutting speed is possible until they are running their saw next to yours and you cut and load a truck load while they cut 2-3 logs.


a craft lady who drills 1/8th inch holes in 1x pine 5 weekends a year really doesn't need the power house of a drill that someone who bores 3/4 inch holes in 2x for running wire runs all day every day. or someone who is mixing drywall mud in 5 gallon pails

so it makes sense

the warrantee is also a big part of the customer experience , HD has that in the Rigid line if you buy it from them and register in 90 days it should be a buy once cry once at least for a good 8-10 years


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Re: Batterie tools [Re: 330-Trapper] #7774654
01/17/23 01:21 PM
01/17/23 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper

I bet those were the blue tools...first Generation batteries


Yup .... I am willing to bet that they are now more barnacle colored.

I just bought the Angle grinder I wanted. Instead of buying a couple of batteries and a charger, I also bought an impact driver that came with batteries and a charger. And I'll get 50 bucks off a couple more batteries that they did not have in stock but will have there in Thursday . The batteries that came with the impact driver are 2.0 ampb/ h and the ones I want for the angle grinder are 5.0 . The nice thing is that the charger than came in the kit also charges my 12v Fuel batteries so I only have to take the one charger with me on the road.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Batterie tools [Re: Scuba1] #7774662
01/17/23 01:35 PM
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Here's a snapshot of the power tool consolidation and some of the private labeled brands- just FYI
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Re: Batterie tools [Re: Scuba1] #7774666
01/17/23 01:43 PM
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The one thing that i really liked about the Blue Ryobi batterie tools was that the vacuum cleaner thing that came with the set would run about 2 minutes on one charge. No man should have to vacuum for longer than that. So that was the one big plus about Ryobi tools in my experience


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Re: Batterie tools [Re: Scuba1] #7774703
01/17/23 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
The one thing that i really liked about the Blue Ryobi batterie tools was that the vacuum cleaner thing that came with the set would run about 2 minutes on one charge. No man should have to vacuum for longer than that. So that was the one big plus about Ryobi tools in my experience

Lol… I was told nothing sexier than a man with a cleaning tool in hand

Re: Batterie tools [Re: Eagleye] #7774741
01/17/23 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Eagleye
Originally Posted by Scuba1
The one thing that i really liked about the Blue Ryobi batterie tools was that the vacuum cleaner thing that came with the set would run about 2 minutes on one charge. No man should have to vacuum for longer than that. So that was the one big plus about Ryobi tools in my experience

Lol… I was told nothing sexier than a man with a cleaning tool in hand


this must be were I went right or wrong depending on view , my wife said we needed a new vacuum I went to the vacuum store and bought a commercial backpack vac because I was tired of all the plastic junk with no parts and no way to repair most of it and a garbage little cord

guess who ends up using in now

also it uses bags so that you don't need a vacuum cleaner to clean your vacuum cleaner


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Re: Batterie tools [Re: Scuba1] #7774761
01/17/23 03:15 PM
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One of my Wife’s Christmas gifts this year was an M18 Packout Vacuum Cleaner- I guess we’re all hopeless romantics
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Re: Batterie tools [Re: Scuba1] #7774823
01/17/23 04:38 PM
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My Home Depot dewalt drill went out after 2 years. Took it to the authorized repair shop and he said it was not worth repairing. They are throw away unless under warrantee.I asked him who had the best drill and he said Bosch was the best. Not any mention of festool? The drills are not very comfortable so I’m not a big fan but everything else I’ve used of theirs is top shelf

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