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Re: Atheism is inherently evil in both definition and [Re: warrior] #7775890
01/18/23 08:08 PM
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Atheism is a religion.

This country has "Freedom of religion."

Anyone that does not respect that is un-American.


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Re: Atheism is inherently evil in both definition and [Re: T-Rex] #7775891
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Originally Posted by T-Rex
Atheism is a religion.

This country has "Freedom of religion."

Anyone that does not respect that is un-American.



I can agree to that, problem being some seem to think it's freedom from religion...


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Re: Atheism is inherently evil in both definition and [Re: warrior] #7775903
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Psalm 22 gives a very clear representation of Jesus' death on the cross and His crucifixion. It was written by King David way before Jesus was born. It even starts out with the same cry.

Coincidence or Truth?


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Re: Atheism is inherently evil in both definition and [Re: warrior] #7775907
01/18/23 08:26 PM
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Everyone has completely skipped over my original premise.

Denial of a Supreme moral good always inevitably results in the amoral thoughts and actions as displayed in Sam Harris' comments of wishing for dead children in ends justifies the means thinking.

What's stopping folks of that belief pattern from going further?

Guys, I fully respect your right of conscience to deny God but none of you will ever share a foxhole with me. You can not be trusted without a moral anchor.


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Re: Atheism is inherently evil in both definition and [Re: seniortrap] #7775916
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Originally Posted by seniortrap
Its a belief in nothing.

I wouldn't quite agree with that statement. It is a belief in Humanism. It believes that humans are the pinnacle of knowledge and authority. It worships mankind and the notion that man is in charge. It has led to the deaths of scores if not hundreds of millions of people in the past hundred years or so; mostly through Marxist/Humanist ideology. Think; Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao, Castro, etc..


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Re: Atheism is inherently evil in both definition and [Re: Chancey] #7775920
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Originally Posted by Chancey

Thanks for that, Chancey. My brother is at a conference where Paul is speaking tomorrow night. I listen Washer's sermons quite often.

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Re: Atheism is inherently evil in both definition and [Re: warrior] #7775926
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I read your link Warrior. Sam Harris lives for the world; as do many people that have convinced themselves that they are more intelligent than the majority. I don't think for a second he is an atheist however; he lives and serves the god of this world.


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Re: Atheism is inherently evil in both definition and [Re: warrior] #7775929
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Originally Posted by warrior
Everyone has completely skipped over my original premise.

Denial of a Supreme moral good always inevitably results in the amoral thoughts and actions as displayed in Sam Harris' comments of wishing for dead children in ends justifies the means thinking.

What's stopping folks of that belief pattern from going further?

Guys, I fully respect your right of conscience to deny God but none of you will ever share a foxhole with me. You can not be trusted without a moral anchor.

A little too judgemental for me. There are people I know and trust completely, and I have no idea what they believe or don't believe when it comes to religion. Never thought to ask because it doesn't matter to me.

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There are no atheist in fox-holes period.


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Re: Atheism is inherently evil in both definition and [Re: warrior] #7775931
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Your welcome Posco, I really like his teachings. He spits the truth and don't care if it offends some; even Christians.


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Re: Atheism is inherently evil in both definition and [Re: warrior] #7775932
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Gotta love it when someone claims to know what you really think

The insults get old. If you want a great used pickup buy it from the dealer with crosses on the wall and bible verses. (sarcasm)


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Re: Atheism is inherently evil in both definition and [Re: warrior] #7775940
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Atheos is the Hellenistic (Greek) word used for 1000's of years meaning; one who walks without god.
Since the Enlightenment Era (aptly named by those who elevate the human psyche), "atheism" has increasingly positioned itself as the leading voice in all matters theology. People like Sam Harris and evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins are the two leading names in the sphere of those who walk without god, and they are both incredibly bright guys.

Walking without god doesn't mean there isn't one.

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Re: Atheism is inherently evil in both definition and [Re: warrior] #7775944
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If there was no God there would be no such thing as atheism

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A bit harsh with the no sharing of foxholes there bud.
Kind of harkens me back to a bumper sticker I once saw.
"Lord, Please Save Me
From Your Followers."

Re: Atheism is inherently evil in both definition and [Re: warrior] #7775947
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Originally Posted by warrior
..Guys, I fully respect your right of conscience to deny God but none of you will ever share a foxhole with me. You can not be trusted without a moral anchor.
Wow. A peacetime foxhole. spooky.

So, which god is yours? And who dug that foxhole, anyway?


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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by warrior
Everyone has completely skipped over my original premise.

Denial of a Supreme moral good always inevitably results in the amoral thoughts and actions as displayed in Sam Harris' comments of wishing for dead children in ends justifies the means thinking.

What's stopping folks of that belief pattern from going further?

Guys, I fully respect your right of conscience to deny God but none of you will ever share a foxhole with me. You can not be trusted without a moral anchor.

A little too judgemental for me. There are people I know and trust completely, and I have no idea what they believe or don't believe when it comes to religion. Never thought to ask because it doesn't matter to me.


X2 and I know a lot of believers that wouldn't trust as far as I could throw them.

If you believe someone has to believe in god to be a good person, then I don't think you're a good person.

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I'm so glad the military knocked alot of this type of dogmatic thinking out of my head

If you need the threat of some all knowing being watching your and judging your 24/7 to stop you from being a horrible person then.....like I'd say you have some problems. I mean their where Christians in the SS walking naked women in fields and shooting them in the back of the heads while they where holding their babies so.....if Christian= good then....yeah no just no sorry..
And again if you can't think something like idk rape or pointless murder ,is bad and you shouldn't do it without religion ..like.... Idk what to tell you

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So now I am in the same club as Hitler, Lenin Pulpit etc. and apparently have no moral compass and can't be trusted.
I don't know how I sleep at night.

Sure glad I don't have your problems. In your eyes the world must be an evil place with a person like Lenin at every street corner.


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Warrior. Ellie Mae is a way better judge of character than you will ever be

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Re: Atheism is inherently evil in both definition and [Re: warrior] #7776039
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You are a good man, Michael. You love this country, work hard, help lots of people in many things.

The point of many in depth thinkers of humanity, is to reach out and help others, to treat others in kindness and thoughtfulness. Their treatment of others sets them apart as taking the lead in good example.

I think frustration of these days allows some to speak in very generalized terms .Id like to think they surely dont mean any of that judgment to you, or others they know , who arent like them, but are good people regardless.

Lots of us regard yourself with respect and high esteem.


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