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Is it worth trapping off "prime" season? #7775896 01/18/23 08:18 PM 01/18/23 08:18 PM
Joined: Jul 2022 Ontario G Graham OP trapper
Graham OP trapper G Joined: Jul 2022 Ontario	Hello, it is legal to trap coyote year round here but I am wondering if people here only go for them when their pelts are prime or do you just trap year round? Thanks for any thoughts on the matter.

Re: Is it worth trapping off "prime" season? [Re: Graham] #7775901 01/18/23 08:22 PM 01/18/23 08:22 PM
Joined: Apr 2012 PA M marathonman trapper
marathonman trapper M Joined: Apr 2012 PA	only if you are getting paid in the off season

Re: Is it worth trapping off "prime" season? [Re: marathonman] #7775904 01/18/23 08:25 PM 01/18/23 08:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2016 WI - Wisconsin A AJE trapper
AJE trapper A Joined: Jan 2016 WI - Wisconsin	Originally Posted by marathonman only if you are getting paid in the off season X2. Or if it is your own property.

Re: Is it worth trapping off "prime" season? [Re: Graham] #7775999 01/18/23 09:45 PM 01/18/23 09:45 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 james bay frontierOnt. B Boco trapper
Boco trapper B Joined: Aug 2011 james bay frontierOnt.	No fur value in the off season. Animals are trapped in the off season for various reasons-fur is not one of them. Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.

Re: Is it worth trapping off "prime" season? [Re: Boco] #7776624 01/19/23 05:07 PM 01/19/23 05:07 PM
Joined: Jul 2022 Ontario G Graham OP trapper
Graham OP trapper G Joined: Jul 2022 Ontario	Originally Posted by Boco No fur value in the off season. Animals are trapped in the off season for various reasons-fur is not one of them. What about countries that don't have winters, do their animals still get "prime" in various parts of the season or are they always just lower value. Thanks

Re: Is it worth trapping off "prime" season? [Re: Graham] #7776642 01/19/23 05:35 PM 01/19/23 05:35 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 james bay frontierOnt. B Boco trapper
Boco trapper B Joined: Aug 2011 james bay frontierOnt.	Google photoperiodism. Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.

Re: Is it worth trapping off "prime" season? [Re: Graham] #7776646 01/19/23 05:42 PM 01/19/23 05:42 PM
Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin G GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper G Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin	Originally Posted by Graham Hello, it is legal to trap coyote year round here but I am wondering if people here only go for them when their pelts are prime or do you just trap year round? Thanks for any thoughts on the matter. what is your reason for trapping ? fur only , then probably not I mostly trap to help our friends and family these days so if there is a problem that needs removing I don't worry about prime. everyone has different reasons for trapping none of them wrong. if your goal is predator control so you can enjoy more turkeys and fawns get a better chance at living. then it doesn't much matter if the fur is prime if your helping someone loosing chickens , it doesn't matter. America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.

Re: Is it worth trapping off "prime" season? [Re: marathonman] #7776650 01/19/23 05:44 PM 01/19/23 05:44 PM
Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin G GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper G Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin	Originally Posted by marathonman only if you are getting paid in the off season more ways to get paid than cash fishing access , hunting access , firewood cutting access. a place to shoot America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.

Re: Is it worth trapping off "prime" season? [Re: Graham] #7776672 01/19/23 06:13 PM 01/19/23 06:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Northern Nevada B Bob trapper
Bob trapper B Joined: Jan 2007 Northern Nevada	Not for free. If someone wants to pay me, OR can trade permissions to hunt or fish etc then I’d trap em in the off season, but nobody has offered yet. Critters in areas that don’t get as cold will still get “prime” BUT there is a big difference between a prime Texas coyote and a prime Ontario coyote. "I have two guns, one for each of ya."

Re: Is it worth trapping off "prime" season? [Re: Bob] #7777313 01/20/23 11:44 AM 01/20/23 11:44 AM
Joined: Jul 2022 Ontario G Graham OP trapper
Graham OP trapper G Joined: Jul 2022 Ontario	Last question, do fur farms have "prime" seasons to harvest? Like so they breed in spring and let them grow out until winter or harvest year round? Originally Posted by Bob Not for free. If someone wants to pay me, OR can trade permissions to hunt or fish etc then I’d trap em in the off season, but nobody has offered yet. Critters in areas that don’t get as cold will still get “prime” BUT there is a big difference between a prime Texas coyote and a prime Ontario coyote. Interesting, thanks.

Re: Is it worth trapping off "prime" season? [Re: Graham] #7777398 01/20/23 01:31 PM 01/20/23 01:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Northern Nevada B Bob trapper
Bob trapper B Joined: Jan 2007 Northern Nevada	In theory fur farms could harvest year round. Temperature has nothing to do with wether a fur gets prime or not, it’s all about the hours of sunlight in a day. Shorter days sends a signal to an animals body to begin preparing for winter. So, I know nothing about fur farms, so I don’t know if they actually do, but it is reasonably possible they could harvest year round by keeping the animals in a dark room to mimic winter photo periods. They do it with show animals all the time. "I have two guns, one for each of ya."

Re: Is it worth trapping off "prime" season? [Re: Bob] #7777402 01/20/23 01:38 PM 01/20/23 01:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2017 Marion Kansas Y Yes sir trapper
Yes sir trapper Y Joined: Jan 2017 Marion Kansas	Originally Posted by Bob In theory fur farms could harvest year round. Temperature has nothing to do with wether a fur gets prime or not, it’s all about the hours of sunlight in a day. Shorter days sends a signal to an animals body to begin preparing for winter. So, I know nothing about fur farms, so I don’t know if they actually do, but it is reasonably possible they could harvest year round by keeping the animals in a dark room to mimic winter photo periods. They do it with show animals all the time. I know nothing about fur farming either but I would think temperature would have an impact on the quality of the prime fur put maybe not...

Re: Is it worth trapping off "prime" season? [Re: Graham] #7777407 01/20/23 01:43 PM 01/20/23 01:43 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 McGrath, AK W white17 "General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
white17 "General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington" W Joined: Mar 2007 McGrath, AK	Mink farms have used controlled lighting for a long time. Temperature and genetics will play a part in fur density.......how many follicles per square inch........but it is daylight that controls the priming process. Take a Texas coyote to Minnesota and he won't grow better hair than he did in Texas. Mean As Nails

Re: Is it worth trapping off "prime" season? [Re: Yes sir] #7777449 01/20/23 02:31 PM 01/20/23 02:31 PM
Joined: Dec 2010 Armpit, ak D Dirt trapper
Dirt trapper D Joined: Dec 2010 Armpit, ak	Originally Posted by Yes sir Originally Posted by Bob In theory fur farms could harvest year round. Temperature has nothing to do with wether a fur gets prime or not, it’s all about the hours of sunlight in a day. Shorter days sends a signal to an animals body to begin preparing for winter. So, I know nothing about fur farms, so I don’t know if they actually do, but it is reasonably possible they could harvest year round by keeping the animals in a dark room to mimic winter photo periods. They do it with show animals all the time. I know nothing about fur farming either but I would think temperature would have an impact on the quality of the prime fur put maybe not... Most mink ranches seem to be located in places that are cold. The lack of UV rays entering the pupil of an animals eyes triggers the hair growth cycle. After the trigger, it appears multiple things may control the rate of growth and quality of the finished product. Most animals go through a molt, also I believe triggered by light. Who is John Galt?

Re: Is it worth trapping off "prime" season? [Re: Graham] #7777579 01/20/23 05:23 PM 01/20/23 05:23 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 james bay frontierOnt. B Boco trapper
Boco trapper B Joined: Aug 2011 james bay frontierOnt.	A lot of people confuse fur quality with primeness. Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.

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