Re: what do you think
[Re: Trapper Dahlgren]
#7778093
01/21/23 08:27 AM
01/21/23 08:27 AM
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Mark June
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Mark June
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Memberships at most every level are tanking Roy. It's the way of things now-a-days because groups are "bad" and only the individual is "good." Groups try to make you do things you may not want to do. As individuals we can be free as a bird to fly, baby, fly where we want, however we want.
I'm an NTA member and always will be.
Blessings and best of luck in your candidacy for the top spot! Mark
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Re: what do you think
[Re: Cibarius]
#7778282
01/21/23 11:27 AM
01/21/23 11:27 AM
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Joined: Feb 2015
Iowa
trapdog1
trapper
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trapper
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Iowa
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For anyone that likes to stay informed, the NTA is a joke. They shroud themselves in secrecy, look down on anyone that asks questions, and have others censor info. Just like the MTA and now FHA. Examples?
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Re: what do you think
[Re: Cibarius]
#7778299
01/21/23 11:41 AM
01/21/23 11:41 AM
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Joined: Feb 2015
Iowa
trapdog1
trapper
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trapper
Joined: Feb 2015
Iowa
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Look for YOUR info at FHA right now. Try to call or email them. Nothing. Ask about the current NTA lawsuits Why no nonresidents in Minnesota. Thanks. All legit questions.
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Re: what do you think
[Re: Trapper Dahlgren]
#7778357
01/21/23 12:41 PM
01/21/23 12:41 PM
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Joined: Aug 2010
Stanton Mi.
BigJoe.
trapper
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trapper
Joined: Aug 2010
Stanton Mi.
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Roy, Stanley and I have worked the sport shows promoting our state trapping association (MTPCA) for quite a while. When we ask trappers if they are a state member or NTA, FTA member if they say no. I would ask if they would like to join. One of the first things they ask is "what do I get for my membership ". Most are expecting a hat, bag or some other goodies. Those are all nice bonuses to get, but they come with a high cost. When we explain what they get for protecting their trapping rights to help changing bag limits and season dates they get a better understanding of where their hard earned money goes. This should be the same at the local, state and national level. Sometimes if we just explain what they get for their membership, we may gain a few more members. State membership drives as well as national membership drives take a lot of planning, organizing and the people to do it. But, if done correctly I believe we can gain more members.
Michigan Trappers and Predator Callers Association Director at Large
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Re: what do you think
[Re: Trapper Dahlgren]
#7778387
01/21/23 01:09 PM
01/21/23 01:09 PM
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Joined: Aug 2010
Stanton Mi.
BigJoe.
trapper
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trapper
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Stanton Mi.
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I have been fortunate enough to be invited to several organizations to have a trapping booth or be a guest speaker. From QDMA chapter banquets, to church groups and Safari club banquets. Getting the CORRECT and TRUTHFUL information about trapping makes a huge difference. It's not so much a membership drive, but it does get the "fence sitters" a chance to hear the truth. To be honest, I've never seen a real aggressive membership drive from the NTA. I'm not saying it hasn't happened, I've just never seen or heard of one in the last 10 years. As you know, the MTPCA ran a "special " membership drive. If people were not a member of MTPCA they could get a 3 for 1 deal. Which if the signed up as an MTPCA member, the MTPCA would pay for a free membership to the NTA and FTA. It was very a very successful drive. I even posted here on Trapperman.com. our membership secretary was excited to get out of state members.
Michigan Trappers and Predator Callers Association Director at Large
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Re: what do you think
[Re: Trapper Dahlgren]
#7778388
01/21/23 01:11 PM
01/21/23 01:11 PM
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Joined: May 2011
Oakland, MS
yotetrapper30
trapper
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trapper
Joined: May 2011
Oakland, MS
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Ok. My 2 cents. Having been a member for years, and a director for a couple years in the past, there is simply way too much secrecy and scandals and that is why your membership numbers are dismal.
I am not currently a member. Now, Roy, if you run for President and win, and after a couple years I see the association is headed in the right direction, with no big scandals having occurred under your Presidency, I'll be happy to rejoin.
How many members know about the current lawsuit against the NTA? If they don't, why don't they?
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Re: what do you think
[Re: Trapper Dahlgren]
#7778396
01/21/23 01:31 PM
01/21/23 01:31 PM
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Joined: Oct 2014
NY
trappermac NY
trapper
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trapper
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NY
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I am a member, and know nothing about the lawsuits. I'd like to know more. I do know that NTA has dropped liability insurance coverage to state affiliates...or so I hear.
You won't get new members until you clean your house up.
Member NYSTA, NTA, FBU, ECTA
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Re: what do you think
[Re: Trapper Dahlgren]
#7778406
01/21/23 01:47 PM
01/21/23 01:47 PM
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Joined: Jan 2008
S/W Mich.
Dillrod
trapper
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trapper
Joined: Jan 2008
S/W Mich.
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Every NTA member should sponsor a newbie with a one year membership and involve them in the activities.
Once they get involved I believe many would desire to return.
Lack of interest and education has to be a big Deterrent in recruiting new members.
As noted above by Big Joe Get aggressive !!! ( you can build on a offense platform / strictly defense is a losing strategy )
JMO
"Some Domestication Required " Life is an adventure, Don't live it any other way !!
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Re: what do you think
[Re: Trapper Dahlgren]
#7778414
01/21/23 01:58 PM
01/21/23 01:58 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Central Pennsylvania
Nittany Lion
Don't call me Mister, Mister
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Don't call me Mister, Mister
Joined: Dec 2006
Central Pennsylvania
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A couple of you mentioned NTA scandals, my head must be in the sand. What scandals are they currently involved in?
Last edited by Nittany Lion; 01/21/23 02:00 PM.
I got myself a seniors' GPS. Not only does it tell me how to get to my destination, it tells me why I wanted to go there.
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Re: what do you think
[Re: Trapper Dahlgren]
#7778420
01/21/23 02:06 PM
01/21/23 02:06 PM
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Joined: Aug 2011
james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
trapper
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trapper
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james bay frontierOnt.
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Almost all the trappers in Ontario are members of the federation I believe well over 80% The reason is that the federation provides something with the membership-a 5 million dollar 3rd party liability insurance policy which is required to do nuisance work for many companys in Ontario. You should look into something like that to boost your membership.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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