Ok, FHA has on their website that you can now login to your account. I still can't. Has anyone been able to do so? It gives you a place to enter your login info but using my account number and password doesn't work like previously. Tried calling, got the press this, press that number for such and such, left a message somewhere...gues we will see, but if anyone got in, let me know how you did it. Thanks.

Sure is funny how many NAFA people went to FHA. If anyone is interested I got a nafa check I will sell half price.

I have no fur there,but tried out of curiosity. No problem logging on.

We went..once..

I'd be interested to know how many trappers that have sent FH fur since NAFA was dissolved..have decided" one and done" due to what seemed to be a huge percentage of NVd pelts and developed alternative markets for their fur?

We have and moneywise we've always.surpassed FHs averages with our markets.

We sell some species with the feet but even ou mrarket grade fur"..no feet..averages above the FH sales.


The other problem is FH wants us to ship the fur to Wisconsin. And NAFA had an agent we either took it to them or sometimes they'd come and get it.

We could not even begin to afford the shipping costs to send our fur to them. Then there's comm on top of shipping.

FH serves a Purpose and any good publicity for fur is a plus..but for us..NAFA going out of business was a good thing because it forced us to find and develop other markets that are longstanding for us.

It has enriched us Both monetarily and personally because we've got.o meet alot of people in the fur industry we'd have never met if NAFA was still in business.

Again FH fills a need and if you're happy other them..good

If NFA went back in business we'd still stick with our new buyers

I dont believe FHA is borrowing money from a bank then loaning it to fur farmers in Europe. Thats a good thing. The market is depressed though. They have to be hanging on by fingernails. I wish them luck. I keep thinking about how NAFA kept accepting fur when they knew the ship was sinking. Also how all the bad checks were sent to Americans. (if that is incorrect you Canadian trappers please correct me).

NAFA pulled a LOT of shady stuff in the years prior to their collapse. Not the least of which was grading by zip code. I SUSPECT preferred customers were tipped off on which lots to bid on because of shady grading.

When the FBI issued all those warrants for price colluding NAFA just moved the U.S. auction to Canada so they could still attend.

Might not be right to compare the two but its hard not to when they hired NAFA people.

Maybe....hopefully.....someone there sees my emails from 2 months ago. Just maybe but I doubt it.

I believe the price colluding scandal was ALC, not NAFA?

Allegations of collusion

On February 13, 2004, just before the Renton wild-fur auction, a gruff but well-liked New Yorker named David Karsch, a fixture on the international fur-buying scene for decades, was approached by a woman.

"They want to talk to you," she told him, according to court documents, and she led him to a lounge set up for fur buyers at the auction house. It was a private meeting with some of his competitors in the fur business.

Otter furs were suddenly fashionable in China, so the traders all agreed that Karsch would buy several "strings" of otter pelts, and split them with his competitors after the auction, according to court records. That would could keep prices down because few would bid against him.

But it also was a federal crime: collusive bidding, or price-fixing.

Someone happened to overhear the conversation, and passed it on to auction officials, who took note when Karsch bought $46,000 in otter furs.

Buyers were already on edge. Rumors of bid-rigging scams had circulated among fur brokers the previous fall.

And American Legend was changing its system. After the 2003 SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) epidemic threatened to disrupt international travel, the auction house had planned to introduce an electronic bidding system, so buyers eventually could buy furs without leaving home.

It is a point in history when "you can buy a Monet on eBay," said Ed Brennan, president of American Legend. It was time to merge the past with the future.

But many fur buyers have a foot in the past. Many are in their 70s, or have been in the business for decades. Some were uncomfortable with computers. Others feared they wouldn't get to see who they were bidding against.

Several threatened a boycott. The auction house withdrew its plans.

Then things got worse.

During the May 2004 auction, FBI agents hand-delivered dozens of subpoenas to fur buyers at their hotel rooms. Some foreign buyers were alarmed and confused. One buyer said he saw another chase an auction official around a table, trying to hit him.

Eventually, a grand jury in U.S. District Court in Seattle indicted Karsch, 76, charging him with restraint of trade. He pleaded guilty this summer, even though he made less than $1,500 on the otter-pelt sales. He faces up to three years in prison, and a fine of up to $350,000. His sentencing is scheduled for this fall.

But it's too soon to say whether the chaos is over.

"The whole thing is still at the forefront of everybody's mind," said Glickman, the New York fur buyer.

Under questioning from federal prosecutors, Karsch said he had passed up other schemes to rig bids, in 2001 and 2002, because he "didn't want to go to jail," according to court documents. Federal officials won't say whether they're done investigating.

In January, a few former mink ranchers filed a class-action suit against several mink buyers, alleging widespread bidding collusion to hold down prices. The ranchers' attorneys won't discuss their evidence. But one buyer is cooperating and has given over records.

Gregory Hansel, a Maine attorney for the mink ranchers, said they intend to prove that, just like in the Karsch case, several bidders agreed in advance about who would bid on certain lots, holding prices artificially low.

"Auctions are supposed to be the perfect model of the marketplace," Hansel said. But "we've interviewed a number of people in the industry, and we believe this conspiracy affected mink auctions in particular."

Attorneys for the buyers did not return calls for comment.

For the auction house, the investigation was a blow. Amid the turmoil, many foreign buyers threatened not to return to Seattle. American Legend, for the first time, moved its 2005 auction out of the country, to Vancouver, B.C.

"We were getting punished, and we're an innocent victim in this thing," said Dick Clinton of Seattle, an attorney for American Legend.

Even so, with accusations swirling, more than 340 buyers showed up in Vancouver and paid record prices.

Earlier this year, American Legend officials persuaded the Justice Department to promise not to serve subpoenas or come around asking questions if the auctions moved back to Renton.

At its homecoming in February, American Legend sold $104 million in fur — in two days.

In 1999, it had sold $65 million the entire year.

It's arse-backwards now.

Your account # is now your user name.

Your user name is now your password.

Try using every thing backwards.

That is what worked for me.

walleyed

Nope...still can't login....I'll give them a call again tomorrow

How much $$ spent in gas money taking fur to buyers levels the playing field in the extra $$ recieved?

I saw some horses today.

I'm in

Is this what came up when you hit “log in”?

FOLLOW WHAT WALLEYED SAID

Okay, when I hit log in the screen above comes up. Where do I put the log in info?

There should be a tool bar across the top of the page.

Click on login and a space for you to type in
username and password pops up.

I have not seen a screen without a space for filling in your info
after clicking the login button.

w

just tried can't get on

Thanks for the correction dirt

I got in two nights ago. Could look at results from 2 previous sales, but could not find a way to look at what I have there to sell, leftover from last year. I don't have much, but could not access it