Re: So we are going to war with Russia....
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Call me what ever you want , but it's Putin against NATO . It's what it's all about. Notice NATO is being used to control civilians now. Just ask Canada.
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Re: So we are going to war with Russia....
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I read an interesting article on this yesterday about how Russia is preparing for a major conflict ie. 500,000 troops, converting factories to war time production, strategically placing missile defense systems, and preparing bomb shelters in the cities. This isn't including the mercenaries already fighting in Ukraine. China has been essentially doing the same, however the US/ NATO aren't preparing at all and from what I've been reading the US/ NATO are woefully unprepared. Seems to me the US/ NATO are sleep walking into a major war we aren't prepared for.
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Re: So we are going to war with Russia....
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Tanks are offensive weapons. Tanks have not fared well in recent conflicts due to drones. Seems like there is a real chance we are sending Ukraine steel coffins but we shall see. I'd say those tanks will be defensive weapons until such time that they crossed into legitimate Russian territory. The Crimean Peninsula, the Donetsk and Luhansk and any other territory that Russia has invaded since last February are not legitimate Russian territory so there's that. w
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Re: So we are going to war with Russia....
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Tanks are offensive weapons. Tanks have not fared well in recent conflicts due to drones. Seems like there is a real chance we are sending Ukraine steel coffins but we shall see. I'd say those tanks will be defensive weapons until such time that they crossed into legitimate Russian territory. The Crimean Peninsula, the Donetsk and Luhansk and any other territory that Russia has invaded since last February are not legitimate Russian territory so there's that. w So a quarterback in football is a defensive player until they cross the 50 yard line?
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Re: So we are going to war with Russia....
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Tanks are offensive weapons. Tanks have not fared well in recent conflicts due to drones. Seems like there is a real chance we are sending Ukraine steel coffins but we shall see. I'd say those tanks will be defensive weapons until such time that they crossed into legitimate Russian territory. The Crimean Peninsula, the Donetsk and Luhansk and any other territory that Russia has invaded since last February are not legitimate Russian territory so there's that. w And parts of Syria was not legitimate Israeli territory until it was. There is a legal and binding way for territory to shift from one country to another and there is still might makes right. If Russia holds these territories they will be Russian, just like Isreal has seized territory.
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Re: So we are going to war with Russia....
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No difference USA,Eu And Canada selling arms to Ukes than China North Korea and Iran selling arms to Russia. In war you help your allies any way you can. Sometimes that even means sending troops.
And you seem to forget who are the agressors who started this conflict and who are defending themselves from having their country attacked. I'm glad I am not like some of you who advocate throwing allies under the bus.
Bunch of commie sympathisers. You better pick a side.I think some of you have already.
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Re: So we are going to war with Russia....
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Boco, Ukraine could use a guy that can track, stay out in cold weather and handle a firearm. hop on a plane and volunteer. Do that and I will believe your serious
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Re: So we are going to war with Russia....
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I am too old,strictly home guard nowadays. But Canadians have always been there to help our allies,and so have you yankees although a bit slow off the mark.
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Re: So we are going to war with Russia....
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And parts of Syria was not legitimate Israeli territory until it was. There is a legal and binding way for territory to shift from one country to another and there is still might makes right.
If Russia holds these territories they will be Russian, just like Isreal has seized territory.
Syria lost the Golan Heights after they got their arses kicked when they massed their tanks on their border to attack Israel at the start of the 1967 Six Day War. The Israel Jews beat those Arabs like a rented mule and the Golan was payback for Syria's aggression. That territory was the price Syria payed for being the aggressor. Don't want to lose soldiers, treasure, and territory then don't attack & invade your neighbor. You who cannot remember your history will be condemned to repeat it. walleyed
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Re: So we are going to war with Russia....
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Ukraine is an ally of the west. And some of us know what happens when you appease a dictators geopolitical hegemony. Just ask a Jew.
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Re: So we are going to war with Russia....
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Re: So we are going to war with Russia....
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The zelenski 'come and make money in our war' speech was over the top and shows what is really going on. 100 tanks are not going to change the outcome. Look for a false flag attack as reason to go to war.
Boco is out too lunch with his comments.
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