None of the how matters, what matters is function and functionally the NADSP was at it's core and in practice socialist.
One could even say Democrat Socialist considering it was elected to power.
Now that election and the rhetoric surrounding it were most definitely couched and wrapped in nationalistic and "patriotic" dogma such that it has been wrongly ascribed as right wing.
Much like the fascisti of Italy wrapped themselves in the fasci and togas of their ancient roman history.

But for simpleton who cannot make the distinction it is all just right wing and bad. For the not so simple who truly understands the fundamental and visceral distinction between socialism and communism it becomes a convenient mask to abuse the right with.[/quote]

Like I said brush up on your history-After Hitler hijacked the Nsdap he systematically liquidated all the "socialist "useful idiots and installed his far right facists.

We need Senator Joseph McCarthy here to root out the Communists. Of course he's dead.

Funny, Stalin did the exact same thing with the trotskyites. Your point is?

Fascism is fundamentally socialism as is communism they are two sides of the same coin and only differ in the mechanisms of totalitarian control. And as such are diametrically enemies within the same ideology. So whenever I hear the epithet commie or fascist tossed out I wonder where the accuser falls. Are they the fascist or commie?

I thought the far right were pro individual liberty and for little to no government? Doesn't sound like Nazi's. Nazi's seemed a lot like Bolsheviks. Lot of central planning and persecution of people they disliked or opposed them. Lot of theft of private property. Concentration camps and gulags. Lot of similarities.

Key differences.

Communism= state ownership and direction of the means of production
Fascism= private ownership retained under state direction of production

That last sounds awful familiar, doesn't it?

Y'all act like Putin is a Saint. He's as corrupt as they come, he didn't become one of the richest men in the world being on the up and up.

Putin is as evil as Zelensky.

My focus is solely what role did our western governments play in kicking over this can of worms and what should be done to get us out of the mess before this thing boils over and folks that matter start dying.

And I've made a serious effort to avoid the blinders of having fought the cold war. Kind of a funny thing those of us old enough to have actually watched Ivan on the other side of the border aren't as blind as those who never did.

boco/loco

Make no mistake, this evil runs much deeper and far wider than we know.
May we never forget that of the 1,250 copies of the first edition of On the Origin of Species that were printed, one was obtained by Friedrich Engels. Engelss wrote to Karl Marx:

"Darwin, by the way, whom I’m reading just now, is absolutely splendid. There was one aspect of teleology that had yet to be demolished, and that has now been done. Never before has so grandiose an attempt been made to demonstrate historical evolution in Nature, and certainly never to such good effect."

When Marx read "Origin", he was just as enthusiastic, calling it “the book which contains the basis in natural history for our view.” Marx wrote;

"Darwin’s work is most important and suits my purpose in that it provides a basis in natural science for the historical class struggle… Despite all shortcomings, it is here that, for the first time, “teleology” in natural science is not only dealt a mortal blow but its rational meaning is empirically explained."

All the foolish running as a pack and it wouldn't be so devastating but that millions have been killed in the name of evolutionary socialism - Darwin and Marx style. Among others.
And it's still among us all as the grand gospel according to those who are lost.

We pray the lies end and peace and cooler heads prevail.

Blessings,
Mark

pretty hard to get more evil than the folks running things here...they just have not gotten to genocide yet.

They just keep handing off the baton Marty, one lie and one lier to another. Me and mine aren't towing any of it behind our rafts.

Yet

Does covid ring a bell?

since covid was a man made weapon which was released on purpose and with purposes in mind it may be considered genocide but it did not effect only one specific group as genocide usually does...other than the elderly.

I grew up in the 80s and 90s. Then, the USSR was seen as threat, but only on TV…think of Red Dawn and Rocky 4.

But, at no time did we do fire drills and hide under the school desk in preparation for nuclear war as my parents did.

Todays Russia is not the USSR. And the west is not run by the likes of Roosevelt, Truman, and Churchhill. The boomers in government need to die already or get the heck out of the way before they get us all killed.

But, that’s not who is really agging this war on is it? Those old decrepit career politicians like Biden and MCConnell are just useful tools.

I basically said the same thing on another thread that got axed a couple weeks back. If Hitler and Stalin started at the same place at the top of a circle and Hitler kept going right and Stalin kept going left, where would they meet up again? At the bottom of the circle in the same place. At that point, it doesn't really matter what the ideologies, they and their minions loved ruling people with absolute power, having the ability to inflict as much despair, pain, and death on anyone they chose. Totalitarianism is totalitarianism. It doesn't really matter what the outside flavor tastes like...

Going to be a bunch of Jane Fonda’s on TMan if the US goes to war against Russia.

So go get our kids killed then? Anything to go along with the deep state?

No, we will become freedom truckers....

This place is already full of Jane Fondas cheering on the enemy.
I smoked em all out from the woodwork.
Now we know who they all are.