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Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: Finster] #7783720
01/27/23 08:14 AM
01/27/23 08:14 AM
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williamsburg ks
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danny clifton Online content
"Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton  Online Content
"Grumpy Old Man"
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williamsburg ks
Like it or not, under Bidet, the economy at my level is still good. Even with all this inflation people here all have good jobs and disposable income. At least anybody who wants to do for their self. The whiners are still whining but the hustler is fine.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: Catch22] #7783721
01/27/23 08:15 AM
01/27/23 08:15 AM
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Fredonia, PA.
Finster Offline OP
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Originally Posted by Catch22
Ok, I never claimed to be the smartest shed in the lightbulb lol. But, am I wrong in saying that the atf can make rules all they want, but just try to circumvent Congress, who makes laws and just hope all will listen and follow even though they haven't the power to do so?

We all know this bill is posturing and won't go anywhere, R's are just as naughty as D's. Am I wrong?

Yup, you get it. WOW! Talk about a blind squirrel finding a nut.


I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: Finster] #7783722
01/27/23 08:16 AM
01/27/23 08:16 AM
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danny clifton Online content
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All you people that were upset I refused to vote Mit Romney or John McCain for president, you think Romney votes to repeal the NFA?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: danny clifton] #7783732
01/27/23 08:21 AM
01/27/23 08:21 AM
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Fredonia, PA.
Finster Offline OP
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
All you people that were upset I refused to vote Mit Romney or John McCain for president, you think Romney votes to repeal the NFA?

Both RINO"s and like 95% of politicians, complete self serving scumbags. Yes, Romney is a woke liberal so I have no doubt he would never vote to repeal the NFA. Well, I shouldn't say never. If he's paid off, he would.


I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: Finster] #7783745
01/27/23 08:39 AM
01/27/23 08:39 AM
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Convention of States is a bad idea. You could also lose all the rights you have left. Takes 2/3rds of the states to agree with anything. With all the cheating going on you really think conservatives would get 2/3rds of anything? Why don't we try not re electing anyone for a couple of cycles. That is what it really takes to fix congress, that and the elimination of all congressional pay and benefits.

Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: Spike369] #7783747
01/27/23 08:46 AM
01/27/23 08:46 AM
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Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Originally Posted by Spike369
Convention of States is a bad idea. You could also lose all the rights you have left. Takes 2/3rds of the states to agree with anything. With all the cheating going on you really think conservatives would get 2/3rds of anything? Why don't we try not re electing anyone for a couple of cycles. That is what it really takes to fix congress, that and the elimination of all congressional pay and benefits.


Did you really just mention cheating then ask to not re-elect anyone? lol

I agree with the no benefits, I do think they should be paid, much like folks are compensated for jury duty.


-Goofy
Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: Finster] #7783748
01/27/23 08:47 AM
01/27/23 08:47 AM
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danny clifton Online content
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People vote party line now. simple as that. so they put on a dog and pony show like all star wrestling. off camera they all attend the same parties and feed at the same trough.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: danny clifton] #7783750
01/27/23 08:50 AM
01/27/23 08:50 AM
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Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
……..they all attend the same parties and feed at the same trough.


That is some good intel right there.


-Goofy
Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: Spike369] #7783798
01/27/23 10:09 AM
01/27/23 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Spike369
Convention of States is a bad idea. You could also lose all the rights you have left. Takes 2/3rds of the states to agree with anything. With all the cheating going on you really think conservatives would get 2/3rds of anything? Why don't we try not re electing anyone for a couple of cycles. That is what it really takes to fix congress, that and the elimination of all congressional pay and benefits.

It was the Founders idea. I reckon if they were that ignorant to trust 'the People ', the constitution ain't worth the vellum it was written on.

Last edited by J Staton; 01/27/23 10:10 AM.
Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: Finster] #7783822
01/27/23 10:51 AM
01/27/23 10:51 AM
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Once the constitution is amended to things like term limits, right of the individual to keep and bear arms, political parties banned, military used solely for defense of the united states, elimination of general welfare, how does it get enforced?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: Finster] #7783825
01/27/23 10:59 AM
01/27/23 10:59 AM
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Well if those in power don't enforce the will of the people, the second amendment, trees with sturdy branches, and a short piece of rope will have to be employed.

Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: Finster] #7783828
01/27/23 11:00 AM
01/27/23 11:00 AM
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Hobbie... you have mine...lol

Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: ] #7783829
01/27/23 11:03 AM
01/27/23 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Originally Posted by Spike369
Convention of States is a bad idea. You could also lose all the rights you have left. Takes 2/3rds of the states to agree with anything. With all the cheating going on you really think conservatives would get 2/3rds of anything? Why don't we try not re electing anyone for a couple of cycles. That is what it really takes to fix congress, that and the elimination of all congressional pay and benefits.

It was the Founders idea. I reckon if they were that ignorant to trust 'the People ', the constitution ain't worth the vellum it was written on.


Well J, the truth is the founders put that in there because they gave future citizens too much credit. They themselves would have used it 85 years ago. They would have been shooting 80 years ago.

You are now extreme if you want to have a discussion about where the country is headed, EXTREME. Let that sink in for a moment.


-Goofy
Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: Finster] #7783830
01/27/23 11:03 AM
01/27/23 11:03 AM
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Quote
trees with sturdy branches, and a short piece of rope will have to be employed.


We are close to that now


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: Donnie H] #7783833
01/27/23 11:05 AM
01/27/23 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Donnie H
Hobbie... you have mine...lol


Excellent and thank you.


-Goofy
Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: Spike369] #7783945
01/27/23 02:15 PM
01/27/23 02:15 PM
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Georgia
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Originally Posted by Spike369
Convention of States is a bad idea. You could also lose all the rights you have left. Takes 2/3rds of the states to agree with anything. With all the cheating going on you really think conservatives would get 2/3rds of anything? Why don't we try not re electing anyone for a couple of cycles. That is what it really takes to fix congress, that and the elimination of all congressional pay and benefits.


Obviously, you truly do not understand how a Convention would work.

It would function much like the Constitutional Convention that drafted the Constitution.

Yes, that Convention did toss out what they were sent there to fix, namely the Articles of Confederation, and in many cases defied direct instructions from there state legislatures. Matter of fact some delegations walked out like NY. But in the end all returned worked out a document that had ZERO authority. So they wasted a long hot summer doing squat but some pie in the sky pipe dream. UNLESS they could then go back to their various states and sell it and get the states on board with it.
Thank God above they were able to do so.

An article V convention would function in the same manner. Delegates would be selected by the state legislatures (Most are R controlled or split than are totally D controlled) with specific instructions. Now once there they could in theory toss out the baby but remember they are answerable to their state so there's one check. And if they should pull off a handful of suggested amendments as directed then they've got to sell it. No sale no pass.


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Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: Donnie H] #7784014
01/27/23 03:34 PM
01/27/23 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnie H
Hobbie... you have mine...lol


You already have 3 now. If its a nice day and not raining I'll vote for you 5 times.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7784740
01/28/23 10:32 AM
01/28/23 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
I’m running for Senate next go around. I promise the first thing I’m gonna do when I get to DC is throat punch Adam Schiff and right after that Mitch McConnell. Can I count on y’all’s support?


Lol


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Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine....
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Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: ] #7784744
01/28/23 10:36 AM
01/28/23 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by J Staton
We could follow the U.S. Constitution and call for a Convention of States and eliminate any alphabet agency we want. Or we could let the politicians take care of it.


I like this idea. I've heard Gorka talk about moving the institutions to states all over the country to get them out of Washington. Not a bad idea, but when your govt is shoving sodomy and gender fluidity down your kids throats, wrecking every chance our children will have for the future by destroying our dollar on purpose, and looting the future wealth of this nation there is no political fix. They are trying to force this country to sell it's sovereignty for a morsel of bread. And that is where we are headed. So they want us to use political channels to try to stop this because the end result of that will be too much time spent and a broken economy. Best to just uproot the issues now and get justice, let the chips fall where they may and rebuild while there is something left to build on


Matthew 7:6 KJV
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine....
-OFBA, NTA, FTA, TTFHA-
Re: Bill to Repeal National Firearms Act [Re: danny clifton] #7784747
01/28/23 10:39 AM
01/28/23 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
People vote party line now. simple as that. so they put on a dog and pony show like all star wrestling. off camera they all attend the same parties and feed at the same trough.


Simple and straight to the point. But are they the fools for doing it or are we fools for believing it?

I think there will always be folks who try to subvert the people it's our fault for allowing it to go unchecked forr this long.


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Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine....
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