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Got a bird dog. Work begins. #7786089
01/29/23 08:16 PM
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Picked up a new bird dog, a Wirehaired Pointing Griffon. Had to drive 17 hours round trip over to north central Idaho to pick him up. He’s now 9 weeks old and I tossed a pheasant wing around on a string and pole today for him, the first 10 minutes he wanted to play chase, after that he slowed down into a stalk and then locked into an intense point. Nose straight on target, body rigid with his tail straight back. This is gonna be fun. [Linked Image]

Re: Got a bird dog. Work begins. [Re: Twenty-fiveYard] #7786103
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Good looking pup, walking up along side a dog on point is something I really enjoy. If we still had quail around here I would have another.


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Re: Got a bird dog. Work begins. [Re: Twenty-fiveYard] #7786104
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I used to run and breed English setters and had a few German short hairs also. Ran them in Nstra trials. Sold them after my wreck when my son was killed and I was on a walker for months.

I have thought about getting back into them since I have the perfect traing grounds at home now but I don't have the time, and we don't have hardly any bird to hunt.

It sure was fun when I was doing it but expensive buying so many birds for training

Congratulations on the new pup it should be fun.

Re: Got a bird dog. Work begins. [Re: Twenty-fiveYard] #7786111
01/29/23 08:34 PM
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I got an English setter just now a year old. Had em out again yesterday. Have to drive a ways but got him into some quail. Everytime we hunt him he gets a little better. I let him live in the house with us. Get more attached to him every day. Still flushes quite a few but he stays close. He is getting good at finding them. We hunted some public walk in stuff. Birds were flushing easy. He still got on point twice even with those spooky birds.


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Re: Got a bird dog. Work begins. [Re: Twenty-fiveYard] #7786118
01/29/23 08:48 PM
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Good looking dog

Re: Got a bird dog. Work begins. [Re: Twenty-fiveYard] #7786132
01/29/23 09:08 PM
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Pups are fun and a lot of work. It's cool watching the genetics manifest as they grow.

They go from this.
[Linked Image]

To this..
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Re: Got a bird dog. Work begins. [Re: Twenty-fiveYard] #7786157
01/29/23 09:36 PM
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Good looking dogs. We run mainly pointers here, with a GSP thrown in, lol. The GSP is the only one we have to put a bark collar on when they’re waiting their turn in the Jeep, lol. Our best pair is an older female named Belle and a young pointer that you could put a saddle on and ride, named Ralphy. When one is off the other picks up the slack. One hunt Belle had 6 points and Ralphy had 1. Next hunt Ralphy had 5 points and Belle only had one. I love watching dogs work!

Re: Got a bird dog. Work begins. [Re: Twenty-fiveYard] #7786440
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Here’s one of his face. [Linked Image]

Re: Got a bird dog. Work begins. [Re: Twenty-fiveYard] #7786445
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Some good looking dogs


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Re: Got a bird dog. Work begins. [Re: Twenty-fiveYard] #7786548
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Congrats! That’s an awesome looking pup! Years of fun!!

Re: Got a bird dog. Work begins. [Re: Twenty-fiveYard] #7786550
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Grumley, great pics’ Beautiful dog.

Re: Got a bird dog. Work begins. [Re: Twenty-fiveYard] #7786554
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If we had quail I'd take up bird hunting. I've always liked the look of vizlas.


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Re: Got a bird dog. Work begins. [Re: Twenty-fiveYard] #7786578
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Twenty-fiveYard, I don't remember ever seeing a pup I didn't like except for poodles. Is your dog going to be a family pet as well? You going to competition it? I tried Nite hunting hound competitions for a couple years. Really soured me on hunt competition. Have no intention to get into it with a bird dog. This setter is the first bird dog I ever owned. Lucky for me he just does it. I never fooled with wings or any of that stuff. I did buy 10 pen raised quail for his first exposure a couple months ago. I put out three of them. He did what he was supposed to so I just killed the other 7 without even putting them out. I was afraid dumb pen birds would screw him up for wild birds. Every time he hunts he gets a little better. I have to drive a ways to get into wild birds. This dog is a great house pet. He hasn't met a human he doesn't like. If a cat runs he chases it but not to bite them. He just likes to play if they will cooperate. Never seen him get aggressive with another dog either. Squirrels get him going. He wont bark at them. Just stares up the tree. So far though out where he can hunt birds he forgets about squirrels. Geese flying over low and honking get his attention but he minds good. I just call him back and he goes back to looking for birds on the ground.


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Re: Got a bird dog. Work begins. [Re: Twenty-fiveYard] #7786582
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Question for y'all bird dog folks.

Why the long haired breeds?

While I understand the protection from weather thing if you're hunting snow or wet and there's not much prettier than a brushed out and slicked up setter.

But you guys hunt in cocklebur country.


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The wire hair from the original poster shouldn't be too bad. The bristly hair will not be as clingy to burrs, but they will get some. If we are going to a particulary bad spot or going on a long hunt, I will hit my dog with a little pam cooking spray. That will help bunches. The soft hair on the brittany or irish setter is a disaster in cocklebur country. My little brother would comb out his dog for hours before it could come back into the house.

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut
The wire hair from the original poster shouldn't be too bad. The bristly hair will not be as clingy to burrs, but they will get some. If we are going to a particulary bad spot or going on a long hunt, I will hit my dog with a little pam cooking spray. That will help bunches. The soft hair on the brittany or irish setter is a disaster in cocklebur country. My little brother would comb out his dog for hours before it could come back into the house.

Gun Nut


This is what I do, I don't know if it keeps him from accumulating them but I do know they're much easier to remove.

I'm getting close to be in the market for another pup, my current Brit just turned 6... the puppy pics don't help...lol

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Re: Got a bird dog. Work begins. [Re: danny clifton] #7787031
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Twenty-fiveYard, I don't remember ever seeing a pup I didn't like except for poodles. Is your dog going to be a family pet as well? You going to competition it? I tried Nite hunting hound competitions for a couple years. Really soured me on hunt competition. Have no intention to get into it with a bird dog. This setter is the first bird dog I ever owned. Lucky for me he just does it. I never fooled with wings or any of that stuff. I did buy 10 pen raised quail for his first exposure a couple months ago. I put out three of them. He did what he was supposed to so I just killed the other 7 without even putting them out. I was afraid dumb pen birds would screw him up for wild birds. Every time he hunts he gets a little better. I have to drive a ways to get into wild birds. This dog is a great house pet. He hasn't met a human he doesn't like. If a cat runs he chases it but not to bite them. He just likes to play if they will cooperate. Never seen him get aggressive with another dog either. Squirrels get him going. He wont bark at them. Just stares up the tree. So far though out where he can hunt birds he forgets about squirrels. Geese flying over low and honking get his attention but he minds good. I just call him back and he goes back to looking for birds on the ground.


Yes, he is also a family companion. The breed is suited to it. The Wirehaired Pointing Griffon is bred for its hunting abilities foremost, but is still well suited to a family. His line is strong, he was the alpha dominant pup of the litter. He is bold and fearless, hard charging into everything. I bang pots and pans together while he feeds and there’s not a flinch. I live 10 minutes from a full section of State Land that holds Huns and grouse and also has a small meandering stream that runs though it. In the next week or so I will start running him out there to hone his prey drive on wild birds. I ascribe to the mentality of letting the dog mostly be a dog in the first year applying only the basic obedience commands; give him the first year and the rest of his life is yours. That said I also believe that 80% minimum of a dogs hunting ability is bred into them. He’s going to blow it on birds at first, but he will learn to slow down into a stalk and lock up into his point. He’s already shown that @ 9 weeks old with a wing on string.

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Originally Posted by warrior
Question for y'all bird dog folks.

Why the long haired breeds?

While I understand the protection from weather thing if you're hunting snow or wet and there's not much prettier than a brushed out and slicked up setter.

But you guys hunt in cocklebur country.


The coat is to help in the cold weather for sure, though it will require some combing if he gets into some thick burrs. Where a short hair may need an insulating layer, the Wirehaired will thrive. I live where it gets very cold. Today was -27F at day break.

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut
The wire hair from the original poster shouldn't be too bad. The bristly hair will not be as clingy to burrs, but they will get some. If we are going to a particulary bad spot or going on a long hunt, I will hit my dog with a little pam cooking spray. That will help bunches. The soft hair on the brittany or irish setter is a disaster in cocklebur country. My little brother would comb out his dog for hours before it could come back into the house.

Gun Nut


Is that a GWP or a WPG, can’t quite see it from the resolution of the pic.

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