Way off. I need a fine red ball point pen, not the red paint thing that smears and spreads. I make spread sheets and have bought many pens that are marked ball point but are paint. The Bic company has some but they are not clear, precise fine pens. Some one here must have something, W-mart does not and in the internet all the ones I have bought are the red paint and not like a fine black pen. Help, and thanks.......jk

Are these the ones you don't like?

Pens

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000071LUG/ref=twister_B00JTGB5WS?_encoding=UTF8&th=1 - these are basic but work very well IMO. Have you tried them?

Zebra pen
Buy the 701 model, it's black but you can buy red refills in 3 different thicknesses
Last forever

I use the Pilot G-2 .38 Thickness for all my drawing...I use black/blue/red...They have very minimal smearing and dry fast.

Not to go way off. But does it have to be ink pen? Could you use the mechanical pencils like they use for drafting?
Very fine line with them.

Almost forgot.. Really nothing off topic here lol.


Mac

Thank you all I will get my neighbor to order some of each......Probably cant use the pencil idea as I work all around on the page each day, but a good thought ..Yote trapper 30 yes I have them right here at my desk....ADC those are a little different from what I have, I will look into them. Trapper red 315 = home run, I will try that first....Bronze back that is going to be my second choice.....thanks all.....jk

That's what I was thinking, Mac. " Rotring ".

I have these too, & like 'em. They are not common. I had our assistant at work special order them.

I use Excel for spreadsheets but try the Uni-ball Signo it doesn't smear

I have to use a paper note book with everything written down as we are always jumping form one thing to another. The computer is to slow, but my broker has three computer and is faster than me as she does this ever minute of the day, every day. I am usually writing as fast as I can and trying to read at the same time. thanks for all the help, it was unexpected......jk