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Re: Liberals [Re: randall brannon] #7791507
02/05/23 06:36 AM
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cooking whiskey is illegal under federal law. maybe not state law but is a federal crime. maybe the feds treat it like marijuana now? i have no idea. i know they enforce gun laws regardless of state laws. dont seem like that many years ago to me a woman like that would come home from grocery shopping to find out her house burned down


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Liberals [Re: danny clifton] #7791536
02/05/23 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
cooking whiskey is illegal under federal law. maybe not state law but is a federal crime. maybe the feds treat it like marijuana now? i have no idea. i know they enforce gun laws regardless of state laws. dont seem like that many years ago to me a woman like that would come home from grocery shopping to find out her house burned down

WHO in their right mind would EVER set up a STILL in a HOUSE indoors???? The smell alone would drive you out of the House and Making Moonshine is NOT a Federal Crime. Selling UNTAXXED LIQUOR is a FEDERAL Crime. Been in court over that one!! Prohibition ended!!!


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Liberals [Re: randall brannon] #7791562
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Still in the house? what are you talking about?


https://www.ttb.gov/distilled-spirits/penalties-for-illegal-distilling#:~:text=While%20individuals%20of%20legal%20drinking,26%20United%20States%20Code%20(U.S.C.)

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While individuals of legal drinking age may produce wine or beer at home for personal or family use, Federal law strictly prohibits individuals from producing distilled spirits at home (see 26 United States Code (U.S.C.) 5042(a)(2) and 5053(e)). Producing distilled spirits at any place other than a TTB-qualified distilled spirits plant can expose you to Federal charges for serious offenses and lead to consequences including, but not necessarily limited to, the following:

Within title 26 of the United States Code, section 5601 sets out criminal penalties for activities including the following. Offenses under this section are felonies that are punishable by up to 5 years in prison, a fine of up to $10,000, or both, for each offense.
5601(a)(1) – Possession of an unregistered still.
5601(a)(2) – Engaging in business as a distiller without filing an application and receiving notice of registration.
5601(a)(6) – Distilling on a prohibited premises. (Under 26 U.S.C. 5178(a)(1)(B), a distilled spirits plant may not be located in a residence or in sheds, yards, or enclosures connected to a residence.)
5601(a)(7) – Unlawful production or use of material fit for production of distilled spirits.
5601(a)(8) – Unlawful production of distilled spirits.
5601(a)(11) – Purchase, receipt, and/or processing of distilled spirits when the person who does so knows or has reasonable grounds to believe that Federal excise tax has not been paid on the spirits.
5601(a)(12) – Removal or concealment of distilled spirits on which tax has not been paid.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Liberals [Re: randall brannon] #7791563
02/05/23 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by randall brannon
Originally Posted by danny clifton
cooking whiskey is illegal under federal law. maybe not state law but is a federal crime. maybe the feds treat it like marijuana now? i have no idea. i know they enforce gun laws regardless of state laws. dont seem like that many years ago to me a woman like that would come home from grocery shopping to find out her house burned down

WHO in their right mind would EVER set up a STILL in a HOUSE indoors???? The smell alone would drive you out of the House and Making Moonshine is NOT a Federal Crime. Selling UNTAXXED LIQUOR is a FEDERAL Crime. Been in court over that one!! Prohibition ended!!!



I could be wrong but the way I read it I think Danny was making reference to a similar story where an idiot neighbor came home from the grocery store to find that a “ random unexplained ” fire had occurred. Not a fire was caused from running a still- but perhaps one caused by the idiot neighbor running there mouth and being a pain in the arse to everyone around them… LOL

Re: Liberals [Re: Philip Stancel] #7791589
02/05/23 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Philip Stancel
Please do not send her to Georgia. There are too many like her down here now.

AMEN!!!!!!!

Re: Liberals [Re: danny clifton] #7791608
02/05/23 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Still in the house? what are you talking about?


https://www.ttb.gov/distilled-spirits/penalties-for-illegal-distilling#:~:text=While%20individuals%20of%20legal%20drinking,26%20United%20States%20Code%20(U.S.C.)

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While individuals of legal drinking age may produce wine or beer at home for personal or family use, Federal law strictly prohibits individuals from producing distilled spirits at home (see 26 United States Code (U.S.C.) 5042(a)(2) and 5053(e)). Producing distilled spirits at any place other than a TTB-qualified distilled spirits plant can expose you to Federal charges for serious offenses and lead to consequences including, but not necessarily limited to, the following:

Within title 26 of the United States Code, section 5601 sets out criminal penalties for activities including the following. Offenses under this section are felonies that are punishable by up to 5 years in prison, a fine of up to $10,000, or both, for each offense.
5601(a)(1) – Possession of an unregistered still.
5601(a)(2) – Engaging in business as a distiller without filing an application and receiving notice of registration.
5601(a)(6) – Distilling on a prohibited premises. (Under 26 U.S.C. 5178(a)(1)(B), a distilled spirits plant may not be located in a residence or in sheds, yards, or enclosures connected to a residence.)
5601(a)(7) – Unlawful production or use of material fit for production of distilled spirits.
5601(a)(8) – Unlawful production of distilled spirits.
5601(a)(11) – Purchase, receipt, and/or processing of distilled spirits when the person who does so knows or has reasonable grounds to believe that Federal excise tax has not been paid on the spirits.
5601(a)(12) – Removal or concealment of distilled spirits on which tax has not been paid.

YOU claim that the woman would come home to their HOUSE BURNED DOWN!!! I think that a still in the shed near the pond would not burn the house down. ALSO in WV we can register a still at the County Clerks office and MINE IS LEGAL!! So is the one I built for the State of Wisconsin for their Agriculture Administration when they were experimenting Corn Alcohol for Fuel. Once again ANY spirits I make is not sold but GIFTED. Now go burn down someones house that is STUPID enough to put a still in one. Most people do not want tubs of fermenting MASH in their house to burn down!!!


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Liberals [Re: Craig S.] #7791615
02/05/23 09:33 AM
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My Bad. I thought Danny was talking aboutthe place in Roane County that had a still in his garage and burned the house down since the Garage was connected. You need a source of water for a still and the idiot thoughtthat would work but forgot about the gas Hot Water heater. Mash can be VERY explosive!!


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Liberals [Re: randall brannon] #7791625
02/05/23 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by randall brannon
Originally Posted by danny clifton
cooking whiskey is illegal under federal law. maybe not state law but is a federal crime. maybe the feds treat it like marijuana now? i have no idea. i know they enforce gun laws regardless of state laws. dont seem like that many years ago to me a woman like that would come home from grocery shopping to find out her house burned down

WHO in their right mind would EVER set up a STILL in a HOUSE indoors???? The smell alone would drive you out of the House and Making Moonshine is NOT a Federal Crime. Selling UNTAXXED LIQUOR is a FEDERAL Crime. Been in court over that one!! Prohibition ended!!!

Danny may be right about people being fed up. It is not only her but the local,Law enforcement that should be investigated. Hearing from the neighbors that she has tried to control them they have all called the sherriffs office and nothing was done. I CALLED MY ATTORNEY FROM THE START and he FORCED them to take action. There are seven different Families on this road. One Family bought their 9 and 11 year old boys a four wheeler and asked me if they could ride up here and back. As a Parent I did not want those kids riding on the County Highway either and I told them they could and they could also ride up to the upper Pasture. She stopped them and told them she did not want the noise and that they should ride in the opposite direction down on the County Highway. She does not have the legal right to keep those kids off of my property on my right of way. Then she went to the Local Math Teacher who,lives on the other side of her and jumped onto him for burning his leaves. He is a Country boy and understands that when the leaves fall in autumn they end up in his Ditch and plug up the Culverts and he rakes them up into his Driveway and burns them. AGAIN the Sherriff was called and AGAIN they informed her that she walked right past his NO TRESSPASSING Sign when she accosted him but they never issued a citation and left. ALL because she did not like the smell of burning leaves but did not have a problem with using a blower to blow them onto his yard.


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Liberals [Re: randall brannon] #7792275
02/06/23 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by randall brannon
Actually since she loves to be a POS we are building a Pig Pen right across the road from her Driveway. The friend of mine who she tried to get to shoot our Horses wants to keep one as well as my buddy from the mine who, lives in town. I will buy a couple myself to raise one to Butcher and then sell the other. I hope she enjoys the smell and the NOISE when they start squealing at feeding time!!! I sure hopes she enjoys the country life!!!

Make sure the prevailing wind blows to her house most of the time , she is in for an education in country life what smells like shite to her smells like dollars to the rest of us lol

Re: Liberals [Re: randall brannon] #7792283
02/06/23 04:19 AM
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why they figure they can buy an acre and own the county is beyond me! same thing here in eastern wv.

Re: Liberals [Re: randall brannon] #7792285
02/06/23 04:24 AM
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I’d put a big flock of Guineas in a lot one the line so every time she came out of the house they’d start making noise.

Re: Liberals [Re: Marty] #7792370
02/06/23 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Marty
she ain't done....watch for poison.


Ill finish it. Watch for poison….on sale. Never pay full price for your poison

Re: Liberals [Re: randall brannon] #7792384
02/06/23 08:43 AM
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You guys completely misunderstood Danny's post. Bad neighbors, who anger the wrong neighbors, have bad luck. Get it?

Re: Liberals [Re: randall brannon] #7792403
02/06/23 09:10 AM
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If she hates the smell of burning leaves then we are safe from her and those like her here in SW Georgia. It’s about to be burning season and the entire SW portion of the State will smell like burning leaves, lol.
We had some New Yorkers move into the neighborhood. Good folks that just talk funny. Last year he pulled up in the drive and asked me if he should be concerned with all the smoke? I told him nah, it’s just burning season. He had no clue what I was talking about so I took him to a property we’d just burned that day. He asked a lot of questions and seemed fine with my answers. Last June he asked if the property had “recovered” after the fire. I told him to get in the truck and took him back to the same property. He was in awe at how lush and green the vegetation was. He ain’t too bad for a Yankee, ole Vinny might make it down here after all. He still talks funny though.

Re: Liberals [Re: Scuba1] #7792466
02/06/23 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
I would think that the pasture next to her patch could do with some manure spreading to get the grass growing nice in the spring. At the current price of fertilizer manure is a very good option when spread thick enough See if you can get a few tankers of the stuff from a dairy farm near you


For goodness sake don't do this!!!!

Until you check the prevailing winds of your area and fertilize on that day. smile

Also, do not build your pig pen in the wrong location. Again, check the prevailing winds. grin


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Liberals [Re: randall brannon] #7792471
02/06/23 10:56 AM
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Sounds like no one would miss her if she just disappeared.

Re: Liberals [Re: randall brannon] #7792582
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Here’s a pic I took on the way back to my town…burning season is underway.
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Re: Liberals [Re: randall brannon] #7792602
02/06/23 02:36 PM
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Ohio, Old fart to some.
Along with hogs get ya one of those stinky Ole Billy goats.
Dad had one I could smell a mile away.


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Re: Liberals [Re: randall brannon] #7792612
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She sounds more like a horse thief! Intentional fence removal and then destruction of evidence or intentional destruction of livestock/ property. Almost all states have hard laws on horses, livestock, and water.

It amazing that people that teach tolerance and compassion have the least of it.


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Re: Liberals [Re: AZ2020] #7792633
02/06/23 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AZ2020
She sounds more like a horse thief! Intentional fence removal and then destruction of evidence or intentional destruction of livestock/ property. Almost all states have hard laws on horses, livestock, and water.

It amazing that people that teach preach tolerance and compassion have the least of it.


fixed that


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