Re: .410 loads for preators
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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02/05/23 04:09 PM
02/05/23 04:09 PM
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Green County Wisconsin
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wait you can find 410
go shopping it would be easier and probably cheaper to buy a Maverick 88 12ga than buy 50 rounds of 410 good hunting loads
I was at Fleet looking for 410 for a co-worker while I was of course also looking for my own ammo in not 410
he inherited his dads 410 and wanted to take his son shooting.
Fleet who has a good ammo selection had 2 TSS loads 44 for 5 rounds of #9 turkey or 38 dollars for 5 rounds of #9 turkey loads
that was it
I did find him some 2 1/2 inch 7.5 shot 26 dollars for 25 rounds and I was lucky to find it for that price
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: .410 loads for preators
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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02/05/23 04:19 PM
02/05/23 04:19 PM
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Northern Nevada
Bob
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IMO no matter what you stick in a 410 it’s not gonna be a “good” load for predator calling. Could you kill some with buckshot or a slug? Probably. Would it be anywhere even close to being as effective as like a hundred other options? No.
"I have two guns, one for each of ya."
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Re: .410 loads for preators
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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02/05/23 04:59 PM
02/05/23 04:59 PM
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.410 copper disks will do it, but it certainly wouldn't be my choice and not over 15-20 yards, even that would be pushing it I think. Better off with a cheap 12 Guage and some 00 buckshot
Last edited by Wild_WI; 02/05/23 05:01 PM.
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Re: .410 loads for preators
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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02/05/23 06:11 PM
02/05/23 06:11 PM
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Hilton, NY
Paul D. Heppner
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I know I'll catch flack for my opinion, but here goes anyway. A 410 belongs on the skeet field or around the barns dinging starlings in the hands of an accomplished shooter, period. No one is going to change my mind. 410 ammo just doesn't carry the payload. I know, a lot of people have taken quite a bit of small game. But in my estimation not reliably. It just doesn't have enough punch/payload to get through any kind of brush or trash. I also am of the opinion that a 410 is the worst tool to start a kid or new shooter. I'm an accomplished shooter and the 410 frustrates me. The last registered targets I recorded was with the NSCA , A class. I started my 3 kids with a 20. They broke targets, lots of them, and never got frustrated because of all of those broken targets. They are all good shots,especially my son. He is a 2 time state sporting clays champion, junior class. He didn't do that with a 410, 12ga all the way.
I have tried hunting with the 410. I found it to be unreliable on rabbits, with and without dogs. I do pretty well shooting starlings around the barns, but keeping my shots around 20 yards and using #9 hard shot, skeet field distances and no brush to shoot through. Predators, no way, not enough payload with the appropriate size shot not to mention enough velocity. Oddly you get better velocities with 2 1/2 inch and 1/2 ounce of shot than 3 inch shells.
There I said my piece, let the flames begin. I really don't give a rats patoot. By the way my favorite gauge is the 20. The last coyote I shot, outside of in a trap, was with a 20 and a 1oz load of 6's at about 10 or 12 yards.
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Re: .410 loads for preators
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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02/05/23 06:31 PM
02/05/23 06:31 PM
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Northern Nevada
Bob
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I tend to agree with Paul. Why use a .410? The shells are harder to find, more expensive, and inferior in every way to a 12ga., or even a 20. There’s literally no situation where a .410 would be my first choice. And putting a 410 in the hands of a kid for hunting or clays is just setting them up for failure.
"I have two guns, one for each of ya."
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Re: .410 loads for preators
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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02/05/23 06:56 PM
02/05/23 06:56 PM
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Northern lower Michigan
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I use a Savage 301 in 20 gauge, it's set up for turkey with a red / green dot. It patterns the common #3 buckshot well enough out to 30 or so yards. There is 20 pellets in the 2 3/4 inch load. First winter using this setup, disclaimer I have taken 2 coyotes with it so far. A few coons and possum.
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Re: .410 loads for preators
[Re: Paul D. Heppner]
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02/05/23 07:00 PM
02/05/23 07:00 PM
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Georgia
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I know I'll catch flack for my opinion, but here goes anyway. A 410 belongs on the skeet field or around the barns dinging starlings in the hands of an accomplished shooter, period. No one is going to change my mind. 410 ammo just doesn't carry the payload. I know, a lot of people have taken quite a bit of small game. But in my estimation not reliably. It just doesn't have enough punch/payload to get through any kind of brush or trash. I also am of the opinion that a 410 is the worst tool to start a kid or new shooter. I'm an accomplished shooter and the 410 frustrates me. The last registered targets I recorded was with the NSCA , A class. I started my 3 kids with a 20. They broke targets, lots of them, and never got frustrated because of all of those broken targets. They are all good shots,especially my son. He is a 2 time state sporting clays champion, junior class. He didn't do that with a 410, 12ga all the way.
I have tried hunting with the 410. I found it to be unreliable on rabbits, with and without dogs. I do pretty well shooting starlings around the barns, but keeping my shots around 20 yards and using #9 hard shot, skeet field distances and no brush to shoot through. Predators, no way, not enough payload with the appropriate size shot not to mention enough velocity. Oddly you get better velocities with 2 1/2 inch and 1/2 ounce of shot than 3 inch shells.
There I said my piece, let the flames begin. I really don't give a rats patoot. By the way my favorite gauge is the 20. The last coyote I shot, outside of in a trap, was with a 20 and a 1oz load of 6's at about 10 or 12 yards. While I agree to a large extent the 410 is what I had as a kid and I quickly learned it's shortcomings. If you pay attention and adapt to the tool in hand you can learn something. I say the 410 made me a better hunter knowing I couldn't take a shot over thirty. So I had to get myself in the right location first or learn how to close the distance. Also since daddy required that I buy my own shells I had double incentive to learn, lol.
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