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How do you set a catch circle? #7793491
02/07/23 09:26 PM
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Had been seeing single coyotes on trail cam so had one trap set in front of camera, another trap 100yds or so south and a third 50 yards north.
Caught a coyote in front of camera

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Next thing you know, there are 3 more checking it out

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Then 4 more joined the group after a few hours

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So now I have 7 more (minimum) to catch

For those that want to share

[*]What combination of sets and distance between when you first set up?
[*]What sets do you use on a catch circle after initial catch?
[*]How do you orient them (distance from edge, side(s), number, etc)?
[*]Gland, curiosity, food lure/bait or blind/no lure/bait?
[*]Any other tips/tricks?

For example
I caught coyote on T bone set
Reset trap in middle of catch circle as T bone set, added a flat set on the north edge (south wind predominant) with urine and gland lure

I also added another flat set by the trap 50yds north to double up there if possible

Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: BTLowry] #7793501
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I usually go with a deep step down a a BIG shot of bait. Give them something to go for with all the other scent there. Step down dirt hole doesn't like rain though. I've got to using the back foot of a coyote for flat sets. Chop it off about 6"" long poke a hole and bury it so just pad is showing, pack ground around it tight with hammer and a shot of urine on it. If you miss coyote they always carry foot away and I never find it which tells me it's a good attraction by itself.

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Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: BTLowry] #7793509
02/07/23 09:54 PM
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That many coyotes reacting to one caught reminds me of domestic coyotes (stole that from Steeltraps)Öwhen I see something like that with that many Iíll gang set that entire area with flat sets and a shot of urine. I have no idea if it would work on coyotes, but out of 8 sets 6 were filled with domestic coyotes. The entire pack in two nights. There was a pack of 7 and a pack of 6. When I left there was a pack of 1 and he ended up leaving searching for another pack I guess.

Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: BTLowry] #7793555
02/07/23 10:51 PM
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Seth, I bought some berkshires just for that sort of thing. Attach via wire and put it in the ground a couple inches. They seem to spend a lot more time trying to haul stuff off when itís got some resistance

Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: BTLowry] #7793563
02/07/23 11:03 PM
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A better anchoring method would be good

Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: Yes sir] #7793578
02/07/23 11:22 PM
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This is NOT my invention but work in places where coyotes refuse to go in catch circle. First. I have a 2 gallon bucket in my truck. EVERY Time I catch a coyote and thier are chew up sticks or wood I put chewed up by coyotes wood in bucket to use later for backing. Ok. Here is something for = want go in catch circle coyotes. Plus WHY i use long chains on staked traps ? Ok. Got 30 inch of chain. IF im in a spot I know. I will catch coyote. Take quick length. Make chain 22 inch long pin up so you have= after a catch 8 inch to undo. That way = un clip quick length. Stretch out chain 8 inchs. You are OUT of catch circle. Use wood form bucket. As backing. Traps 8 inch outside catch circle. Do nothing. Add nothing

Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: steeltraps] #7793583
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BT. With that many coyotes it dont really matter. Start 7 to 10 yards down wind. And go to setting. My guess is = With competetion their is hunger. Key off that. That many coyotes they will work aggressively. So. Reset catch circle. And start setting down wind. Heck. I would set 1 up wind. What could it hurt? They might be coming that way any way. Flat Sets. A few turd sets. And a dirt hole or 2. In this case 7 coyotes or more i would set 12 traps. Why not ? Cant hurt. On location will matter lmore than = What Set?

Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: BTLowry] #7793749
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Appreciate the advice.

Not 100% sure but I think my trap on the downwind side picked up one this morning. Cell cam sent me a pic. Raining and dark so hard to tell if same trap in center of circle or the edge.

Will know for sure when I run traps this evening when I get home

Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: BTLowry] #7793772
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Great advice ST

Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: BTLowry] #7793832
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Thanks for posting those pics. That's intriguing that many showed up to the growling/fighting.

That's some Real Time Info! I'd be setting many more traps.

SteelTraps' idea to use coyote-chewed sticks is good. I have also took urine/scent-soaked dirt from center of catch circle and made additional sets in area....works well.


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Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: BTLowry] #7794014
02/08/23 06:15 PM
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See what you are looking at.
Read what the pictures are showing you.

Your pictures- They are showing you places to make an extra set or two. Just outside catch circle. (see how many are on edge of circle)
See what you are looking at.
Neat pictures.

Appears, 3 and half hours later, they had funeral services for the family. Note- still on edge of catch circle.

Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: Hern] #7794036
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Most places that are hard trapped. Have a # of coyotes that = refuse to go into the catch circle. 3 seasons in West Texas sheep country And I can honestly say = Have never seen a track in catch circle. BUT I still set the trap back. WHY ? Because 35 years of trapping coyotes has taught me = Never say Never with coyotes

Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: steeltraps] #7794037
02/08/23 07:16 PM
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Some places = Coyotes will come in catch circles. Some places no way. But they will toe around the catch circle. SO = if a man carries likes 1 dz = 12 inch chains and say 24 quick length. You could extend 12 inchs outside the catch circle. I think=== this would be a great idea. Dirt Hole. Flat Set. Or other. I fell 12 inch extensions would work. And even for a guy like me. On the road trapping. With Jobs from South Alabama to West Texas. A dz or 2 dz chains for extensions. Would be easy and take up a small space in truck

Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: steeltraps] #7794050
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Originally Posted by steeltraps
Some places = Coyotes will come in catch circles. Some places no way. But they will toe around the catch circle. SO = if a man carries likes 1 dz = 12 inch chains and say 24 quick length. You could extend 12 inchs outside the catch circle. I think=== this would be a great idea. Dirt Hole. Flat Set. Or other. I fell 12 inch extensions would work. And even for a guy like me. On the road trapping. With Jobs from South Alabama to West Texas. A dz or 2 dz chains for extensions. Would be easy and take up a small space in truck

This^^^ is a GREAT idea! I'm gonna rig all my Bridger 2s up with additional chain. I already use 3/16" quick links to attach to cable stake.

This one idea alone will be the death of several coyotes....without having to move trap or set another.


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Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7794057
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SW it works well on catch circle shy coyotes. Doesnt take up much space. That cheaper = # 3 foreign chain from FNT is what I use. A = 3/16 quick length will go threw it. I use # 3 on my drag chains. So thats where I got the idea to try = cutting it 12 inchs

Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: BTLowry] #7794061
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Yíall are making me spend my savings. How about just sending a PM to folks so I canít see it! Just placed an order to make me some dragsÖand yes with plenty of swivels, lol!!
But, I already do something similar. I donít stake in the trap bed. Quit doing that after the second year of trying to get up cable. And now with chain I really donít! Iíll drive an anchor about 6-8Ē away and stretch it over to the trap bed. Still have the main chain of the trap to bed under it, but as stated, after a catch I can move it. It still donít be outside the catch circle, but it wonít be in the original spot. It works down here. One place catch circles are magnets, another place your better off pulling and moving enough that it looks like and 8 when you catch again. I always make two sets at each location for the wind changes. When both catch Iíll set dead center between the two.

I still say with coyotes acting like that Iíd gang set a spot in anticipation of a catch. The most coyotes Iíve EVER got on camera is two.

Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: BTLowry] #7794089
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Hern that last picture 1 was caught and the other 7 were onlookers

steeltraps once again you provide a little gem of an idea with the chain extensions

Caught a female in the same trap (middle of catch circle) this morning

She moved the chunk I had for backing on the trap I set on edge of previous catch circle (I thought it was far enough outside) so I used the droppings she left, another chewed piece of wood and what was left of the T bone for the new backing.
I now have 4 feet to use like Yes Sir suggested.

I was a little concerned that I lost this one from a pull out
This is the last picture I got from camera at 0942

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I was sure it had escaped but got a notification on the way home at 1642 that there was another picture

Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: BTLowry] #7794107
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I usually use the droppings that are always there as the backing/attractant and reset the trap, sometimes with lure, sometimes with nothing. I've set another trap on the edge of the catch circle some (not a lot) but seems I always catch in the circle or in a nearby set if I catch again, not in the one just outside the catch circle. That's just me, and likely influenced by the fact I don't do it often.
Caught an old female wolf yesterday (I think the alpha female) and the others were howling up on the hill while I was resetting. These are wolves that have been trapped and are leery of most lures (caught her in a natural pee post, added nothing but the trap). So I reset the trap she was in about a foot farther back from the tree they had been peeing on (in a natural flat spot for them to step). And picked up some of her droppings and a shovelful of yellow snow and piled it up as an attractant/backing. Then added two traps blind set in the trail the others had been padding back and forth on after she was caught, one each direction about 50-100 yards away. We'll see if they come back and check for her or not.

Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: BTLowry] #7794150
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With all the coyotes and the camera it will be interesting to follow along with what happens here. Thanks for sharing BT.

Re: How do you set a catch circle? [Re: BTLowry] #7794386
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BT thanks for posting this, interesting discussion that we have all had before but the pictures make the difference. Had this foot hold out for about a week and never got the coyotes to break stride and come over from the centre of the field. Not sure what drew the fisher into the open field but after that the coyotes needed to check it out. They marked it every time they came through.

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