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330 springs #7793842
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Suggestions on changing 330 springs. I know how to get the old ones off easily. Just having some difficulty closing the new eyes.

Re: 330 springs [Re: nimzy] #7793845
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yeah, sell them and buy new ones.


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Re: 330 springs [Re: nimzy] #7793859
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Are you using a vise?


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Re: 330 springs [Re: nimzy] #7793885
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I would use a vice^^^


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Re: 330 springs [Re: nimzy] #7793902
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Better to make a gap by moving the spring tip away from the closed point up or down. I try to not mess with opening and then trying to close the loop and losing the loop shape. If you notice most replacement springs are bent that way for that reason.


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Re: 330 springs [Re: nimzy] #7793916
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Yes vise
The eye kept springing back open

Maybe Iíll put some heat to it

Re: 330 springs [Re: nimzy] #7793923
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You have to overbend it so when it springs back it is lined up correctly.
Like LD said open the spring by bending it sideways,not by making the eye bigger.

Last edited by Boco; 02/08/23 02:59 PM.

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Re: 330 springs [Re: Law Dog] #7793924
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Better to make a gap by moving the spring tip away from the closed point up or down. I try to not mess with opening and then trying to close the loop and losing the loop shape. If you notice most replacement springs are bent that way for that reason.


X 2

This !!

Don't spread and open the eye loop.

Twist the end of the loop away and to the side one way or the other.

To close, just twist the end back into place.

It's very difficult to completely close the loop by compressing the eye with
a vise and achieve a complete closure.

I use huge, mombo channel lock pliers and a long, heavy duty screw driver
to twist/pry the eye loop back into a closed position.

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Re: 330 springs [Re: Boco] #7793929
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These particular springs the wire overlaps. Iíll post pic later

Re: 330 springs [Re: nimzy] #7793949
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If you have opened the eye too far, shift it sideways enough to overbend it back closed, then side-shift it into the proper position.
Overlaps ? ? ? never saw one like that.
need that pic.

Re: 330 springs [Re: nimzy] #7793964
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Originally Posted by nimzy
Yes vise
The eye kept springing back open

Maybe Iíll put some heat to it

Don't heat it you'll lose temper


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Re: 330 springs [Re: nimzy] #7793971
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Heat the the eye. Will that matter?

Re: 330 springs [Re: Turtledale] #7793973
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Originally Posted by Turtledale
Originally Posted by nimzy
Yes vise
The eye kept springing back open

Maybe Iíll put some heat to it

Don't heat it you'll lose temper


X 2 !!

I also wouldn't heat spring steel for fear
of losing temper.

Crowfoot has the proper remedy fix
if you have already opened the eye the wrong way.

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Re: 330 springs [Re: nimzy] #7794069
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Was out skinning a few badgers and snapped a quick pic these are made to just bend the tip up to meet the spring to close the loop like said you go past the spring some because it will spring back a little.

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Re: 330 springs [Re: nimzy] #7794271
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Originally Posted by nimzy
Heat the the eye. Will that matter?

Could open the eye right back up after a couple snap offs if you lose temper


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Re: 330 springs [Re: nimzy] #7794698
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Got it figured out. Was able to bend in vise. Thanks all!

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