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Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! #7794668
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Well, I guess I haven't had to ship anything since before covid hit. I checked on price to ship four beaver hides out to Moyles Tannery today from my home in northern Minnesota. Speedee, UPS, and US Postal Service; $60 to $100, with Postal Service being the most expensive.
So with tanning process and total shipping charges for four beaver, it would bring total to over $220.00
I guess I just wasn't expecting this amount..........

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Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7794690
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You could ship them to Sleepy Creek Tannery much cheaper as they are in the SpeeDee Delivery area. I used to ship complete skinning machines with a hoist for around $50 if the person was in the speedy delivery range.

Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7794699
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I checked this also. Wanted to get some beaver done to get some mittens made. In the long run it would be just as cheap to get them done without my fur.

Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7794703
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Originally Posted by kabguy
Well, I guess I haven't had to ship anything since before covid hit. I checked on price to ship four beaver hides out to Moyles Tannery today from my home in northern Minnesota. Speedee, UPS, and US Postal Service; $60 to $100, with Postal Service being the most expensive.
So with tanning process and total shipping charges for four beaver, it would bring total to over $220.00
I guess I just wasn't expecting this amount..........


Did you roll them up tight or try to ship them flat?






Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7794781
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I’m gonna learn to tan my own for this very reason. Can’t afford to have a tannery do it


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Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7794874
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What Monster Toms is referring to is the excess charges for oversized boxes. In the old days the mountain men used to fold those plews twice and then press them into 80-90 lb packs wrapped in smoked deerskin.
We could maybe learn from them.


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Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7795094
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Or....use pirateship.com

Sounds like a scam but it is completely legit. Huge discounts on UPS shipping especially with oversize packages. It is how I ship whole frozen coyotes and fox across the country.

I usually ship packages for $40-$60 that UPS would charge $200+ for

You just go on there and put in the dimensions of the box and the weight of the package, print the label, tape the label on the box, drop off at UPS store


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Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7795217
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^^^^ Thanks for the info. I hadn't heard of that service before.


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Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7795344
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Was that just shipping or did you insure them too ?

Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7795504
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Thanks Coondager. I'd never heard of them before. I'll try them next time I have something to ship. I will also be shipping some fur to Moyles and was shocked last year at what it cost.


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Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7795510
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I just shipped 21 coyotes by UPS to Sleepy Creek for $90. I thought that was bad enough.

Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7795542
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4 beaver should be able to be rolled up and shipped in a round rod tube like package. The smaller the better, as they will calculate the weight based on dimensions of the product usually. Would guess you could ship them for $25 or so done that way.

Like others have said, Pirate Ship will get you the standard commercial rates for UPS and USPS and has a better interface than either of them!


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Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7796452
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That's a negative Mike; smallest box that would fit 4 rolled up tight beaver was $60 for the shipping; 4 tanned beaver at Moyles including their shipping back to me was $160. I will look into Sleepy Creek Tannery also.
.....shipping has gone up.

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Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7796477
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Shipped 5 marten pelts, 2 fisher pelts and a coyote pelt to Moyle from Maine a couple of weeks ago. Packed it all in a 10x10x24 box. $64 USPS. With the $36 Moyle charges to send it back I’ll have $100 in the lot. No good, but how else can a guy get pelts to Idaho and back.

Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7796488
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Originally Posted by kabguy
That's a negative Mike; smallest box that would fit 4 rolled up tight beaver was $60 for the shipping; 4 tanned beaver at Moyles including their shipping back to me was $160. I will look into Sleepy Creek Tannery also.
.....shipping has gone up.


You just have to know how to play the game! It helps when you ship on a daily basis and know how to pack to minimize sizes.

Just looked it up. A 32" x 8" x 8" tube weighing 15 lbs, shipped though Pirate Ship has a UPS rate of $18.45.

I am pretty sure I could do it in a smaller tube - 6", and the weight would be less unless they were the 4 biggest beavers I see in a year.


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Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: T36MDTrapper] #7796489
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Originally Posted by T36MDTrapper
Shipped 5 marten pelts, 2 fisher pelts and a coyote pelt to Moyle from Maine a couple of weeks ago. Packed it all in a 10x10x24 box. $64 USPS. With the $36 Moyle charges to send it back I’ll have $100 in the lot. No good, but how else can a guy get pelts to Idaho and back.


Larger packages are much cheaper to ship through UPS than USPS. Doing the shipping online will help save you 40% of retail prices for UPS also.


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Try Tubari in NJ. Closer to you than ID.

Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7798492
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Originally Posted by kabguy
Well, I guess I haven't had to ship anything since before covid hit. I checked on price to ship four beaver hides out to Moyles Tannery today from my home in northern Minnesota. Speedee, UPS, and US Postal Service; $60 to $100, with Postal Service being the most expensive. So with tanning process and total shipping charges for four beaver, it would bring total to over $220.00
I guess I just wasn't expecting this amount..........


Speedee Delivery doesn't ship to Idaho far as I know. Otherwise, Speedee does a great job at a discount price for WI, IL, MN, IA, ND, SD, and NE. I've shipped many boxes of hooped beaver to the Dakotas for less than $20 a box, some having up to five hooped beaver in them. Speedee plays the same game UPS does IF . . . they come to your door for pickup. That is, if the box dimensions come in at 130" or under, then you're good to go. Over that, and there's quite a leap in surcharge. They measure this way: length X 1 plus width X 2 plus height X 2. If the sum is 130" or less you're good to go. If it's over that, and you've got the time, gas efficient vehicle, and a Speedee depot "nearby", you'll get a very good rate.

What might cost me $65 and up through UPS is always less than $20 through Speedee picking up at the door.


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Ship south to Sleepy Creek in IOWA much closer than any other professional tannery.

Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7799226
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I shipped 6 large beavers and a coyote to Sleepy Creek last month and it cost me $23 and the picked it up at my work for $8.


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Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7799249
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I generally ship beaver from Alaska to Moyles for about $5 per hide. Flesh then salt heavily then as they dry roll them up tight in a ball. Stuff/cram/jam into a flat rate box even as they are still a bit flexible. Tape the box for blowouts as needed lol. You should be able to fit 4 xl to blkt beaver in a large flat rate box this way. The flat 'game' box shape may work better than the square type box.
A friend of mine ships his dried beaver rolled and he also mentioned the $5 per pelt so his way must work as well.
The other thing is that I'm really looking at with Moyles is getting a minimum of 8 skins of a given species for the price break, with 21 pelts being the big break. Not gonna happen with wolverine lol but rats, beaver, etc no problem.

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Drasselt, so what does it cost you to send 4 hides to Moyles from Alaska using the flat rate box and what shipper are you using then?

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USPS large flat rate box is $23.00 I believe. Salted and rolled tight should be able to get at least 4 in large USPS flat rate box.


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Salt generously. Fold skin to skin and allow to drain several days shown here in a barrel with some empty milk jugs to keep the furs out of the juice. After a few days of draining shake/scrape off as much salt as possible and lay them out to dry. As they dry keep close watch. While still flexible roll tight and allow to dry some more. Long before they get crispy dry, and in fact while they are still quite flexible, stuff them in a taped/reinforced USPS flat rate box. As you can see several beaver will go into one box this way.


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Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #7800279
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......mine are stretched dried; so much larger.

Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: coondagger2] #7801446
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Originally Posted by coondagger2
Or....use pirateship.com

Sounds like a scam but it is completely legit. Huge discounts on UPS shipping especially with oversize packages. It is how I ship whole frozen coyotes and fox across the country.

I usually ship packages for $40-$60 that UPS would charge $200+ for

You just go on there and put in the dimensions of the box and the weight of the package, print the label, tape the label on the box, drop off at UPS store


Just used pirateship.com, pretty easy. Saved about 50%.

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Ditto used Pirate Ship this week and saved $44 on a box. Printed the label, taped to box, dropped at UPS, gave me a receipt and that was it. I thought the UPS place would give me grief but was easy.

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I just shipped 3 fox and 2 coon that were dried and shipped after folding in half or thirds. Sent to Tubari for $19 thru UPS.

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Several years ago, I shipped a quite large brown bear to New Method tannery. I was barley able to cram it into a dishwasher box.
I live in Juneau, Alaska. No roads out, so shipping is air or sea.
Air freight would have been over $500.00, so it went by barge. It was still nearly $300.00, and took nearly 3 weeks to get there.


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Thanks for all the feedback guys; after checking it all out it seems Pirate Ship is my cheapest, best option to save me considerably.

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Originally Posted by kabguy
Thanks for all the feedback guys; after checking it all out it seems Pirate Ship is my cheapest, best option to save me considerably.

Yep, just shipped two whole frozen fox 2 day across the country for $60. Would have been $250+ if I would have went straight through UPS. Pirate ship is the way to go


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What is the other tannery out of jersey not Tubari starts with a z I think there prices are hard to beat

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Originally Posted by Keystonekiller
What is the other tannery out of jersey not Tubari starts with a z I think there prices are hard to beat

Z&L

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Thank you

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I checked Tubari and they were more expensive than Moyles.
I did just make my shipment of 4 dried, rolled up beaver, in a 40 inch, 8x8 inch box, and total weighed 7 lbs. I used Pirate Ship (UPS) and the cost to ship it from Int'l. Falls, Mn. to Moyles was $18.00. That was the best deal I could come up with and am not disappointed.

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Sounds like people on the internet may have know something, and saved you $40+ on one shipment.

Your welcome for the advice and how to do it! cool


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Originally Posted by kabguy
I checked Tubari and they were more expensive than Moyles.
I did just make my shipment of 4 dried, rolled up beaver, in a 40 inch, 8x8 inch box, and total weighed 7 lbs. I used Pirate Ship (UPS) and the cost to ship it from Int'l. Falls, Mn. to Moyles was $18.00. That was the best deal I could come up with and am not disappointed.

Not bad at all, definitely saved yourself some money


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Well, Coondagger 2 gets a big thank you as he was the first one to recommend Pirate Ship on here and get me looking, but appreciate everyone else too that chipped in with their results and recommendations.

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Big thanks to coondagger2, using pirate ship this year, I sent a 13x13x24 box of furs to moyles for half what it cost through UPS last year.

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Awesome! Glad it worked out for you guys


Gotta live up to the nickname...
Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: kabguy] #8105874
03/22/24 04:02 PM
03/22/24 04:02 PM
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Posts: 273
Ohio
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Ohio
Just shipped a 12x12x40” box to Molye’s UPS wanted $102.00 to ship. Pirate ship wanted $47.86 for a 13# box. Thanks guys glad I did my homework.

Re: Shipping furs to tannery; shipping shocker!!! [Re: mike mason] #8106054
03/22/24 08:31 PM
03/22/24 08:31 PM
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Henderson, N.Y. Jefferson Co.
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Henderson, N.Y. Jefferson Co.
Originally Posted by mike mason
Try Tubari in NJ. Closer to you than ID.


Tubari has gone belly up as of yesterday !!!!

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Jefferson Co. Fur Harvesters

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