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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795443
02/10/23 07:41 PM
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Best I can find the scene was shot at the actual US cemetery in France. I'm not a veteran did have family and friends that fought in WW2. Never heard any of them say anything negative about the movie. One comment from older friend I recall. Was how real the street scenes with blown up shot up buildings was. Just all destruction.

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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: RustyShacklefrd] #7795446
02/10/23 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyShacklefrd
It depends on the director. Clint eastwood did a dang good job with American sniper. A Memorial for one of the greatest snipers in world history. And that wasn't that long ago really

A good show indeed.


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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795453
02/10/23 07:52 PM
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I still can't believe Finster started this- it sounds like a debate Catch22 would instigate


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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Leftlane] #7795455
02/10/23 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
I still can't believe Finster started this- it sounds like a debate Catch22 would instigate

I'm just asking questions. not trying to start anything. I'm sorry people are taking it that way. I just think that cemeteries, especially military cemeteries, are sacred places and should be preserved as such. I do not think they sould be filmed for profit. That's the entire reason for this thread.


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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795458
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So if it brings to light the battles and lives lost for freedom that’s bad?

Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795460
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https://movie-locations.com/movies/s/Saving-Private-Ryan.php#:~:text=Situated%20on%20a%20bluff%20overlooking,Europe%20during%20World%20War%20II.


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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795461
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And still no one agrees with you, lol.

Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795463
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Well poo..........anyway it says it is the real cemetery.


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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795465
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Yeah, the American Cemetery in Normandy near Omaha Beach.

Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Wanna Be] #7795468
02/10/23 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
So if it brings to light the battles and lives lost for freedom that’s bad?
If they are exploiting the dead for their own gain, then I would say yes. Should he be leaning on the grave of a solider that was killed in battle decades ago as a prop? Cemeteries are not props.


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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795471
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Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by lumberjack391
I have seen pictures of Arlington cemetery, what difference would a little footage matter? I never really thought about it that way.

Would you like the graves of your kin used in such a manner? Making profit for an industry that would spit on them?


Not getting your grip. Used in what manner? I took it as a tribute and paying respect to a man that helped Ryan get home to live and raise a family. If your reffering to making money from something. Better not spend any and all money your stocks will make from companies that use child labor or might have crooked dealings around the world. Start looking at things in that light hard to point at someone NOT profiting off of someones loss.....

Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795474
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There’s magazines, books, documentaries, etc that all make profits and have shown this cemetery. Guess those are bad too. We have statues of Generals that draw hundreds of thousands to an area and that area makes money. So tear them down?
If you feel a certain way that’s your right as an American. It’s your right to post it also. But rewatch and pay attention to that Cemetary and think to yourself that’s one of the reasons you’re not speaking German.
Watch a movie about Pearl Harbor and eventually you’ll see the USS Arizona which to this day is the resting place of hundreds of sailors. When you watch it, don’t think it’s disgraceful or dishonoring our military, watch it and think to yourself that’s why you’re not speaking Japanese.

Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795475
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From what I understand the scenes in the cemetery are the actual cemetery in Colleville-sur-Mer Normandy, and great pains were taken to maintain dignity and respect. Minimal crew, short time taken to film.

The landing scenes took place on the actual beaches and took 15 days to complete. After which great pains were taken to remove the whole set and restore the beaches.


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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795478
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
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Not getting your grip. Used in what manner? I took it as a tribute and paying respect to a man that helped Ryan get home to live and raise a family. If your reffering to making money from something. Better not spend any and all money your stocks will make from companies that use child labor or might have crooked dealings around the world. Start looking at things in that light hard to point at someone NOT profiting off of someones loss.....

You are missing my point


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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: elkaholic] #7795482
02/10/23 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by elkaholic
From what I understand the scenes in the cemetery are the actual cemetery in Colleville-sur-Mer Normandy, and great pains were taken to maintain dignity and respect. Minimal crew, short time taken to film.

The landing scenes took place on the actual beaches and took 15 days to complete. After which great pains were taken to remove the whole set and restore the beaches.

Finally. Some info to discuss. Obviously, dignity and respect were observed. My question is should it have happened at all? People are expanding this far past the original question. I'm just wondering if people are ok with letting an industry that hates this country and hates the military film real places of honor to make a profit. That's been my only question.


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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795485
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The answer is yes the way it was done is fine. It's not like they filmed a fist full of dollars in there

Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: RustyShacklefrd] #7795486
02/10/23 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyShacklefrd
The answer is yes the way it was done is fine. It's not like they filmed a fist full of dollars in there

Canada....BUTT OUTTTT

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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795489
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Hey finster
We took a beach too buddy

Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795490
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I don't think that movie disrespects the dead in the Normandy American cemetery at all. Now the money made by the media when Jane Fonda sat on that anti aircraft gun in Hanoi? Those media outlets and Jane too are disgusting.


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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795492
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I don't remember the movie well enough to recall the cemetery scene. But.......I do remember being insulted by the movie itself. Especially all the bogus moralizing by Miller...if I recall his name correctly. What really bothered me was this preachy, moralizing being created and pushed at me by someone who never served or was in harms way.

The last straw for me was the 'debate' among troops about whether to release a German they had just taken prisoner after a fire fight. Anyone who has served in a small combat unit realizes that it has its own morality. It is tightly knit and loyalties are to each other. There are only two groups of people in the world where the small unit is concerned. Friends or foes.

No matter how hard I try I can't imagine discussing the release of a captive who was trying to kill you 60 seconds earlier. That debate would never take place.

Needless to say I have no use for Spielberg or Hanks after that. Maybe I should be more sensitive.


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