Just a not being serious question
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02/21/23 03:15 PM
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But, in a way I am being serious…
I know hunters and fishermen look at some ways as cheating, such as live bait vs artificial baits in fishing and say using decoys turkey hunting vs using woodsmanship and calling ability.
Do trappers consider anything other than say bait or lure or urine or any combo of those as cheating? I’ll give an example, my son wanted to try a scent post set so he got a piece of fat lighter and stuck it in the ground a couple of weeks ago. He didn’t place a set or anything else, just put it near some tracks and waited until after a rain to see if anything was spooked by it or seemed ok with 9” of pine sticking up out of the ground. When he noticed tracks after a rain he decided to set it this past Monday when they had the day off..
Here’s the cheating part…bedded trap, used a coyote lure to the left, a cat lure to the right, urine at the base of the post, Gusto on top, and bacon grease rubbed in the middle. That was Monday afternoon and had a bobcat this morning. I was ragging him asking, did he not have anything else to put out or was he bored? I told him anyone could catch them with a hint of every smell there was. Of course I was just giving him a hard time, because he’s like me…a catch is a catch.
So any of y’all out there that think that’s like “cheating”? Anyone else throw the gauntlet at them on occasion? What’s crazy is all he saw was coyote tracks at that location and ends up with a cat.
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Re: Just a not being serious question
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02/21/23 03:55 PM
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I feel a little guilty sometimes setting up heavily used beaver and otter crossovers.....NOT!!! LOL
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Re: Just a not being serious question
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02/21/23 04:08 PM
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I feel a little guilty sometimes setting up heavily used beaver and otter crossovers.....NOT!!! LOL That brings up something else…two traps at one set. I did that on a coyote that wouldn’t commit. My son at the time said “cheating.” I told him being smart!
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Re: Just a not being serious question
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02/21/23 04:37 PM
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I always thought that overdoing it was counterproductive when using baits and lures with coyote. I do occasionally overdo raccoon sets with trailing scents, so guilty there I guess…..
I don’t think any of it is cheating. Goal is to catch critters so setting on sign and using scents are part of the game. I also don’t think that using bait for fish or deer is cheating either if it helps you get them. If someone wants to challenge themselves to hunt or fish without bait, it’s their own thing. I don’t look down on them either. When it comes to trapping, I’m not sure why someone wouldn’t do exactly what they thought would help them catch the target as long as it’s legal and probably cost effective.
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Re: Just a not being serious question
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02/21/23 06:48 PM
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Don't see multiple traps, scents, or visual attractors as cheating.
But always prescribed to the idea that one trap per set was enough, unless dealing with a trap smart animal, but would still probably use a snare instead.
Don't really think it's even possible to take advantage of a furbearer if lawfully trapping, especially a coyote, Lol.
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Re: Just a not being serious question
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02/21/23 07:17 PM
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I feel a little guilty sometimes setting up heavily used beaver and otter crossovers.....NOT!!! LOL That brings up something else…two traps at one set. I did that on a coyote that wouldn’t commit. My son at the time said “cheating.” I told him being smart! I once dug a hole. Stuck a dead bobcat in it and set 8 traps around it. Caught the 3 toed female I was after.
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Re: Just a not being serious question
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02/21/23 09:45 PM
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I would consider a strychnine jackpot cheating. That would be illegal in most US states.
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Re: Just a not being serious question
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02/21/23 10:33 PM
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I would consider a strychnine jackpot cheating. Being a NWCO I wouldn't if it was able to get the problem solved without creating more problems. The more problems is why we have regulations.
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Re: Just a not being serious question
[Re: BTLowry]
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02/24/23 07:48 PM
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Now that I sit here and think, other than a blind set in a trail we pretty much "cheat" to catch a critter. Use some smell to draw them, something flashy to get their attention, etc
I call it my bag of dirty tricks. My clients usually chuckle when I say that.
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