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Dogproofs #7804029 02/21/23 06:54 PM 02/21/23 06:54 PM
Joined: Jun 2022 Posts: 1,319 South Dakota T TheYouthTrapper OP trapper
TheYouthTrapper OP trapper T Joined: Jun 2022 Posts: 1,319 South Dakota	Now with spring trapping season coming close and our bounty here in SD during that time. I always make it a habit to target coons after I'm done rat trapping. Last year, we finally had some luck with them but we still had equal as much luck with dirt holes and blind sets with footholds. Is this just a regional thing? Using good bait, cat food, marshmallows, and Glo coon for lure or sometimes salmon oil/ other fish oil. I like the idea of dogproofs but I just haven't been able to get them to work as much as others have. Any ideas for this?

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7804034 02/21/23 06:58 PM 02/21/23 06:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,636 Rodney,Ohio SNIPERBBB trapper
SNIPERBBB trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,636 Rodney,Ohio	Some coon just won't work a DP. There's some tricks, like burying them so theyre like s dirthole, that help get around that. The thing that makes DPs great is that you can set a lot more of them to make up for what you miss. http://www.sniperstrappingplace.com/tmansearch.php

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7804055 02/21/23 07:30 PM 02/21/23 07:30 PM
Joined: May 2018 Posts: 10,863 SW Georgia W Wanna Be trapper
Wanna Be trapper W Joined: May 2018 Posts: 10,863 SW Georgia	During the Spring it’s just the opposite for me. They’ll get got in DP’s. If we have some cool temps to keep the ants at bay or I can set them in some water, I use my grape flavored dry cat food and we catch the fool out of them and possums. I can get away with grape flavored peanuts for a while too. Once the ants are active and no water, I just use regular peanuts. After the little ones come out, cage traps can produce 2-3 per catch just using an egg. Plus with a cage you can get the occasional armadillo.

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7804103 02/21/23 08:26 PM 02/21/23 08:26 PM
Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,847 Frazee, MN B backroadsarcher trapper
backroadsarcher trapper B Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,847 Frazee, MN	To increase your luck with Dps put them right in the middle of they're trails so have to run right into them. If you have the right stuff in them they will work them.

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7804182 02/21/23 10:13 PM 02/21/23 10:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 7,684 Virginia 5 52Carl trapper
52Carl trapper 5 Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 7,684 Virginia	I use DPs almost exclusively. Not because each one of them outperforms a foothold set (they do not), but because I can make 6 DP sets in the time that it takes to make a foothold set. Its a numbers game. Even if a foothold set connects twice as often as a DP set, since I have 6 times more DP sets out there, I will be catching 3 times more raccoons for time spent setting traps using DPs. I use a lot of snares in trails to catch the raccoons who already had dinner before they got to my DP sets.

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7804242 02/21/23 11:23 PM 02/21/23 11:23 PM
Joined: Apr 2019 Posts: 832 SD B Bison88 trapper
Bison88 trapper B Joined: Apr 2019 Posts: 832 SD	X2 on 52Carl!

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7804363 02/22/23 08:02 AM 02/22/23 08:02 AM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 270 N.W.Ohio T Tooltime trapper
Tooltime trapper T Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 270 N.W.Ohio	^^X3 the more steel in the ground helps increase catch chances www.ohiostatetrapper.org

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7804676 02/22/23 03:22 PM 02/22/23 03:22 PM
Joined: Dec 2021 Posts: 251 New Mexico C ChadDaniel trapper
ChadDaniel trapper C Joined: Dec 2021 Posts: 251 New Mexico	For me just a touch of castor on top of the cat food in the DP makes all the difference. When I say a touch I mean a match stick head. Years ago I couldn’t quit catching coons in my beaver castor mounds so I started incorporating castor into the DP sets. It’s been working for me. I even started mixing castor and bacon grease together for my cage traps. Buy these guys are 100% correct about the numbers game. More traps!!!! May God bless you and yours

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7804719 02/22/23 04:33 PM 02/22/23 04:33 PM
Joined: Apr 2022 Posts: 3,769 Wisconsin G Guss trapper
Guss trapper G Joined: Apr 2022 Posts: 3,769 Wisconsin	Beaver is the all around predator bait.

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7804777 02/22/23 06:05 PM 02/22/23 06:05 PM
Joined: May 2010 Posts: 1,119 alabama BandB trapper
BandB trapper Joined: May 2010 Posts: 1,119 alabama	Mark June's used to sell ground crawfish. It is fantastic for coons, otter, and mink. I put a little in the bottom of the DP, then cat food and corn on top of it. If you can find any, buy it. I'm nursing my last two pints now. I sure wish he still sold it.

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7805114 02/23/23 03:29 AM 02/23/23 03:29 AM
Joined: Dec 2022 Posts: 4,460 illinois J jalstat trapper
jalstat trapper J Joined: Dec 2022 Posts: 4,460 illinois	Place them right under their nose ,I use mini marshmellows or cat food, I don't fill it up under the trigger and a little more and sprinkle a little on the ground but I always smear some jack mackeral mixed with oatmeal, flour , cornmeal around the top lip of the trap and catch a lot of coons this way

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7805309 02/23/23 10:43 AM 02/23/23 10:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 534 Pennsylvania K Keystonekiller trapper
Keystonekiller trapper K Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 534 Pennsylvania	I grind my own crayfish up an use it in pocket sets...I do a good gallon every year if any one is interested just pm me I can throw some extra in the grinder for ya

Re: Dogproofs [Re: BandB] #7805322 02/23/23 11:00 AM 02/23/23 11:00 AM
Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 1,717 Iowa C CTRAPS trapper
CTRAPS trapper C Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 1,717 Iowa	Originally Posted by BandB Mark June's used to sell ground crawfish. It is fantastic for coons, otter, and mink. I put a little in the bottom of the DP, then cat food and corn on top of it. If you can find any, buy it. I'm nursing my last two pints now. I sure wish he still sold it. Check with ADC. He makes a Shellfish Payback bait that I've great results with. Life Member: ITA, IBA & NRA. Member of SA, FTA & NTA

Re: Dogproofs [Re: Guss] #7805341 02/23/23 11:16 AM 02/23/23 11:16 AM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 12,312 South Ga - Almost Florida S Swamp Wolf trapper
Swamp Wolf trapper S Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 12,312 South Ga - Almost Florida	Originally Posted by Guss Beaver is the all around predator bait. I sure wouldn't want to clean out your DPs of beaver meat after sitting in warmer temps for about a week.... Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything! Resource Protection Service

Re: Dogproofs [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7805465 02/23/23 02:31 PM 02/23/23 02:31 PM
Joined: May 2018 Posts: 10,863 SW Georgia W Wanna Be trapper
Wanna Be trapper W Joined: May 2018 Posts: 10,863 SW Georgia	Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf Originally Posted by Guss Beaver is the all around predator bait. I sure wouldn't want to clean out your DPs of beaver meat after sitting in warmer temps for about a week.... Same with Sardines…despite being edible in a can, when they sit in “warm” temps, they get rank fairly quick. Anchoring them in a slow moving creek for a week or three will help get rid of the strong odor. A hint of it seems to add to the drawing power later on.

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7805581 02/23/23 04:45 PM 02/23/23 04:45 PM
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,139 NC - Here there and everywhere C coondagger2 "Brat"
coondagger2 "Brat" C Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,139 NC - Here there and everywhere	I have never understood the fancy baits in DP's. If two fellas went out trapping and one used cheap cat food and good fish oil and the other used a fancy bait I'd bet the catch difference would be negligible if they both set on location like they should. I'll be danged if I am putting lure and bait and all these paste bait concoctions in a dog proof As others have mentioned, make them trip over them and you will catch them. Don't make it more complicated than it is! Gotta live up to the nickname...

Re: Dogproofs [Re: coondagger2] #7805652 02/23/23 07:01 PM 02/23/23 07:01 PM
Joined: Dec 2022 Posts: 4,460 illinois J jalstat trapper
jalstat trapper J Joined: Dec 2022 Posts: 4,460 illinois	Originally Posted by coondagger2 I have never understood the fancy baits in DP's. If two fellas went out trapping and one used cheap cat food and good fish oil and the other used a fancy bait I'd bet the catch difference would be negligible if they both set on location like they should. I'll be danged if I am putting lure and bait and all these paste bait concoctions in a dog proof As others have mentioned, make them trip over them and you will catch them. Don't make it more complicated than it is! Amen to that!! You said it better than I did… Jon

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7806018 02/24/23 08:04 AM 02/24/23 08:04 AM
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 10,619 Iowa T trapdog1 trapper
trapdog1 trapper T Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 10,619 Iowa	There are dry baits out there that I have found to outperform cat food hands down. ADC and Marty Smith both make DP baits that I will gladly spend money on because they work.

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7806085 02/24/23 09:07 AM 02/24/23 09:07 AM
Joined: May 2018 Posts: 10,863 SW Georgia W Wanna Be trapper
Wanna Be trapper W Joined: May 2018 Posts: 10,863 SW Georgia	I can buy a $15 bag of cat food that lasts an entire season/year. I have access to unlimited peanuts. Haven’t found anything that doesn’t eat peanuts, that includes Coyotes and fox as well. Not being rude, but I haven’t found a “coon bait” on the market that’s worth the money. I wish there was something that performs better than what I’m using, but when they’ll hit cat food or peanuts equal to or more than commercial stuff, it’s just not worth it too me and I only get paid for what I catch. If you have something, shoot me a PM and I’ll see if it’s on my “already tried” list.

Re: Dogproofs [Re: Wanna Be] #7806223 02/24/23 12:32 PM 02/24/23 12:32 PM
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,139 NC - Here there and everywhere C coondagger2 "Brat"
coondagger2 "Brat" C Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,139 NC - Here there and everywhere	Originally Posted by Wanna Be Not being rude, but I haven’t found a “coon bait” on the market that’s worth the money. I wish there was something that performs better than what I’m using, but when they’ll hit cat food or peanuts equal to or more than commercial stuff, it’s just not worth it to me X2! Gotta live up to the nickname...

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7806262 02/24/23 01:34 PM 02/24/23 01:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,636 Rodney,Ohio SNIPERBBB trapper
SNIPERBBB trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,636 Rodney,Ohio	Wish cat food worked in tbe wild http://www.sniperstrappingplace.com/tmansearch.php

Re: Dogproofs [Re: coondagger2] #7806279 02/24/23 02:04 PM 02/24/23 02:04 PM
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 10,619 Iowa T trapdog1 trapper
trapdog1 trapper T Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 10,619 Iowa	Originally Posted by coondagger2 Originally Posted by Wanna Be Not being rude, but I haven’t found a “coon bait” on the market that’s worth the money. I wish there was something that performs better than what I’m using, but when they’ll hit cat food or peanuts equal to or more than commercial stuff, it’s just not worth it to me X2! That hasn't been my experience, but you've got to go with what you have confidence in and what works for you.

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7806344 02/24/23 04:18 PM 02/24/23 04:18 PM
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,139 NC - Here there and everywhere C coondagger2 "Brat"
coondagger2 "Brat" C Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,139 NC - Here there and everywhere	That's right trapdog. If it works for you then by no means should you change Gotta live up to the nickname...

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7806554 02/24/23 09:04 PM 02/24/23 09:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 7,684 Virginia 5 52Carl trapper
52Carl trapper 5 Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 7,684 Virginia	Some places that I trap raccoons, I need to catch as close to every last one of them as possible. A lot of times they come by my sets traveling from the dining room, heading to their living room, already stuffed and are finicky. I offer them diced apples, topped with squeeze grape jam, and squirt a mixture of imitation vanilla and honey, with a little anise oil around the set. It has been proven to be my best shot at catching the overstuffed ones. Who passes up desert after stuffing themselves with Thanksgiving dinner? Now I'm thinking about trying some pecan pie in my DPs.

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7806662 02/25/23 12:14 AM 02/25/23 12:14 AM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 16,367 Iowa ~ADC~ The Count
~ADC~ The Count Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 16,367 Iowa	I had a guy one time set up an experiment in about as controlled environment as you can get. He had trail through the center of long old hog building. The raccoons were walking right through it to get from dens to feeding areas. He placed 8 DPs 4 on each side of the trail and baited every other one with my bait and the others with another popular bait choice. The first night he had 4 coons on my bait and one on the other. Further continuous days results were similar to the results of the first night. Over 85% of the coons he caught were on my bait. I didn't even know he was doing the experiment but I was happy with his results. The coons passed several opportunities to get the other bait to get to mine. After using DPs for close to 2 decades now I am very confident in saying the bait choices do make a difference. It's not about the ones you catch, its about the ones you don't.

Re: Dogproofs [Re: ~ADC~] #7806678 02/25/23 02:45 AM 02/25/23 02:45 AM
Joined: Jun 2022 Posts: 1,319 South Dakota T TheYouthTrapper OP trapper
TheYouthTrapper OP trapper T Joined: Jun 2022 Posts: 1,319 South Dakota	Originally Posted by ~ADC~ I had a guy one time set up an experiment in about as controlled environment as you can get. He had trail through the center of long old hog building. The raccoons were walking right through it to get from dens to feeding areas. He placed 8 DPs 4 on each side of the trail and baited every other one with my bait and the others with another popular bait choice. The first night he had 4 coons on my bait and one on the other. Further continuous days results were similar to the results of the first night. Over 85% of the coons he caught were on my bait. I didn't even know he was doing the experiment but I was happy with his results. The coons passed several opportunities to get the other bait to get to mine. After using DPs for close to 2 decades now I am very confident in saying the bait choices do make a difference. It's not about the ones you catch, its about the ones you don't. That's interesting, do you have multiple baits and where do I find them?

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7806736 02/25/23 07:42 AM 02/25/23 07:42 AM
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 10,619 Iowa T trapdog1 trapper
trapdog1 trapper T Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 10,619 Iowa	As much as it pains me to compliment him, ADC's baits are very good. (Note: I am not a paid spokesman. ADC is WAY too cheap for something like that.)

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7807443 02/25/23 10:58 PM 02/25/23 10:58 PM
Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 24 Park Co. Wy. W Wyoming Drifter trapper
Wyoming Drifter trapper W Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 24 Park Co. Wy.	I've heard about guys staking or chaining off to a tree/post or whatever and then just laying the trap down instead of sticking it into the ground. Any studies done on which is better ?

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7807463 02/25/23 11:28 PM 02/25/23 11:28 PM
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 10,619 Iowa T trapdog1 trapper
trapdog1 trapper T Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 10,619 Iowa	I've used a lot of DPs but I've never laid one on the ground. I think they have to be more effective stuck in the ground where they can be seen and smelled.

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7807534 02/26/23 01:34 AM 02/26/23 01:34 AM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 16,367 Iowa ~ADC~ The Count
~ADC~ The Count Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 16,367 Iowa	Originally Posted by TheYouthTrapper Originally Posted by ~ADC~ I had a guy one time set up an experiment in about as controlled environment as you can get. He had trail through the center of long old hog building. The raccoons were walking right through it to get from dens to feeding areas. He placed 8 DPs 4 on each side of the trail and baited every other one with my bait and the others with another popular bait choice. The first night he had 4 coons on my bait and one on the other. Further continuous days results were similar to the results of the first night. Over 85% of the coons he caught were on my bait. I didn't even know he was doing the experiment but I was happy with his results. The coons passed several opportunities to get the other bait to get to mine. After using DPs for close to 2 decades now I am very confident in saying the bait choices do make a difference. It's not about the ones you catch, its about the ones you don't. That's interesting, do you have multiple baits and where do I find them? Actually they are in the for sale section on www.iowatrapperstalk.com, that is what I have left. I'm contemplating not making anymore until the markets return, but I'm not sure some folks will let me. lol

Re: Dogproofs [Re: trapdog1] #7807535 02/26/23 01:34 AM 02/26/23 01:34 AM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 16,367 Iowa ~ADC~ The Count
~ADC~ The Count Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 16,367 Iowa	Originally Posted by trapdog1 As much as it pains me to compliment him, ADC's baits are very good. (Note: I am not a paid spokesman. ADC is WAY too cheap for something like that.)

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7807953 02/26/23 05:53 PM 02/26/23 05:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,139 NC - Here there and everywhere C coondagger2 "Brat"
coondagger2 "Brat" C Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,139 NC - Here there and everywhere	I was thinking about this thread this weekend so I setup a little experiment of my own here. Each February for the last weekend of trapping season I break out the dog proofs and trap the farm we turkey hunt for coons. It’s not a huge farm, about 150 acres. Friday I set out a dozen dog proofs and a dozen 220’s. All set on good coon trails, but this is the third year I’ve trapped them heavy and they’re starting to thin out a little. I am confident with the conibears that I’m killing pretty much any coon walking down that trail. Above it has been argued that by only using cat food and good fish oil I am missing coons In two checks I’ve caught 16. 6 in 220’s and 10 in dog proofs. I fail to see how I am missing coons Sure is nice catching them in 220’s though, they’re dry and clean and no gun required Gotta live up to the nickname...

Re: Dogproofs [Re: TheYouthTrapper] #7808069 02/26/23 08:21 PM 02/26/23 08:21 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,636 Rodney,Ohio SNIPERBBB trapper
SNIPERBBB trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,636 Rodney,Ohio	Unless you run cameras or set your 220s or footholds inbetween the DP's on the trail, how would you know if you had misses? http://www.sniperstrappingplace.com/tmansearch.php

Re: Dogproofs [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7808071 02/26/23 08:24 PM 02/26/23 08:24 PM
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,139 NC - Here there and everywhere C coondagger2 "Brat"
coondagger2 "Brat" C Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,139 NC - Here there and everywhere	Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB Unless you run cameras or set your 220s or footholds inbetween the DP's on the trail, how would you know if you had misses? No way to know, I was just using the 220’s as a control for how many coon I should be expecting to catch with a dozen traps. Never said it was perfect science Gotta live up to the nickname...

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