Re: New coyote rifle
[Re: matt]
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02/28/23 11:21 AM
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I shoot a lot of dogs for my own use, for hats and selling the pelts to others who want to use them for their own for things because they can't or don't want to take the time to hunt them.
I don't need fur busted up, I used to shoot my 22-250 for many years, have shot all kinds of bullets out of them as I load my own and learned quickly to stop using any semblance of a frangible bullet, because of the sewing needed to have them tanned. Only shoot solids now with it, 55 grains boat tails, nothing moves after it's hit with them due to the shock it supplies.
I also stopped using the 250 when I won a 204 Ruger in a raffle, love this caliber for staying on target when you pull the trigger. although I have not loaded any solids yet for it, I have as of yet not had enough pelt damage due to picking my shot with the frangible's sold for this caliber. I don't like these little grenades', and feel the the 204 out shines the 250 in most all ways for dogs at all ranges, with a solid for it, I would probably stop using the 250 all together.
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Re: New coyote rifle
[Re: matt]
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02/28/23 11:26 AM
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The Hornady 55/60 grain SP are my go too bullets for 22 cal. I also use 40gr in 204 Ruger. Most of the time they never go over 10 yards before they realize they are dead. Roy
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Re: New coyote rifle
[Re: matt]
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02/28/23 11:29 AM
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Heavier bullets are not going to make your 223 anchor coyotes better. Speed/velocity is the answer. Step up to the 22-250 and you'll see your runner/spinner percentages invert with drop dead on the spot numbers.
If you stick with the 223, go lighter and push them hard.
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Re: New coyote rifle
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02/28/23 01:50 PM
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Heavier bullets are not going to make your 223 anchor coyotes better. Speed/velocity is the answer. Step up to the 22-250 and you'll see your runner/spinner percentages invert with drop dead on the spot numbers.
If you stick with the 223, go lighter and push them hard. Spot on
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Re: New coyote rifle
[Re: matt]
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02/28/23 05:08 PM
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I would suggest forgetting the 223 and 224 and get a 22-250 or 22 creedmore and the nosler bullets Boone mentions if your goal is to anchor.
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Re: New coyote rifle
[Re: matt]
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02/28/23 06:16 PM
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I don't reload yet, may be forced to go that route. I love my 17 rem but ammo and even component availability are a problem. Went to the 22-250. Last 2 years I haven't seen any ammo on a shelf except for Vmax, which ain't fur friendly in my opinion.
If you're not reloading and don't have components stockpiled to reload ... the 223 is an option. A light for caliber, sp bullets with speed is the only way to go, regardless of what you choose. But you got to watch the rifling rate of your firearm.
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Re: New coyote rifle
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02/28/23 07:56 PM
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Fur friendly on a west Virginia coyotes.
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Re: New coyote rifle
[Re: GritGuy]
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02/28/23 09:27 PM
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I shoot a lot of dogs for my own use, for hats and selling the pelts to others who want to use them for their own for things because they can't or don't want to take the time to hunt them.
I don't need fur busted up, I used to shoot my 22-250 for many years, have shot all kinds of bullets out of them as I load my own and learned quickly to stop using any semblance of a frangible bullet, because of the sewing needed to have them tanned. Only shoot solids now with it, 55 grains boat tails, nothing moves after it's hit with them due to the shock it supplies.
I also stopped using the 250 when I won a 204 Ruger in a raffle, love this caliber for staying on target when you pull the trigger. although I have not loaded any solids yet for it, I have as of yet not had enough pelt damage due to picking my shot with the frangible's sold for this caliber. I don't like these little grenades', and feel the the 204 out shines the 250 in most all ways for dogs at all ranges, with a solid for it, I would probably stop using the 250 all together.
According to my personal results and hundreds of coyotes I've witnessed being killed by others, I nominate your post as the "worst" I've ever seen posted!! What you wrote is equivalent to someone saying a Duke 1.5 is an awesome coyote trap. Hard to believe but I actually agree with the Kentucky Orrical.
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Re: New coyote rifle
[Re: matt]
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02/28/23 10:41 PM
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Thanks for all the replies. The general consensus is that I need a 22-50. Which is not a bad thing, who don’t need another rifle. Looking at uppers now, if I can find one. Will just go with a bolt gun. I am running a pulsar thermal, it looks like a normal rifle scope. So it would mount up just fine on a bolt gun. In the mean time I have some 50 and 55 grain bullets for my .223. I also found a couple boxes of the Hornady superformance 53 gr. Will see how thru shoot.
Jbyard is correct these coyotes are for control and fun, not fur. The last weekend’s tournament was 105 killed for 2 nights. Saving a deer/turkey one coyote at a time.
Far as TSS being expensive, it’s not cheap. But once again we are limited to nothing larger than #2 shot for night hunting. It works wonders I am shooting a 20 ga with 1 1/2 oz of #4s. I have not shot it past 50, but it has a good enough pattern. That I would not be afraid to try one at 60. At 40 and 50 yards it will pass broadside through a coyote. It’s 45.00 for 5 shots. So for what we can use, I think it’s worth the cost.
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Re: New coyote rifle
[Re: GritGuy]
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03/01/23 09:08 PM
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Gee BB don't hold back now LOL, did not know I needed your opinion on what I use or do, sorry send me your number and I will call next time for your permission to write on the forum ! Soon as you mentioned "Solids "and "Shock", you lost all credibility.
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: New coyote rifle
[Re: matt]
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03/02/23 09:19 AM
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A bullet that goes in and does not exit at all creates the least amount of damage, and the most shock, It takes a fair amount of velocity and solid hits to achieve those results.
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