This is true to some extent. But not worrying about damage and based on what his "real life" examples he wanted suggestions. The 55 grain spritzer is "old school bullet that I KNOW will anchor anything smaller than a 100 lb deer. It will drop any deer if shot placement is correct. No need for ballistic tips, micro coeffeicient statistics alloy dynamics , ect. Just get a 22-250 rifle . Find the load that suits it and put that 55 gr bullet to work.


I hear all this 204 204 . If it's so great (and could be) why didn't the 222 mag take off when it was introduced. Is it like the 6.5 man bun craze? Just needed enough people to fill the band wagon?
I've read the comparison articles between 204/ 22-250/ 220 swift. With the lighter bullet in the 204 it looks pretty limited to shot placement when anchoring a yote. Now I know this will trigger tails of thousands of yotes killed with 204. But I will also tell you millions have been killed with a 22lr. Think about that statement before you react. Around here that is what is used to remove one from a trap.......

And with that 22 250 get some needles and thread ready!

I shot and sewed a LOT of coyotes with my old 270. Its what I had. They look horrible when you roll them over. But skinned and washed its just a 3-4 inch long tear instead of a massive hole. With good shot placement and bullets 22-250 doesnt do that.

22-250 or 220 swift. Punch em in the ribs and they ain't going anywhere.

It also takes an incredibly specific bullet construction.

Which is rare. There’s a lot more poor coyote bullets out there than there is good ones.

Improper bullet construction and high velocity is a train wreck too.

Fur damage is subjective.

What one guy thinks is “blown up”, another thinks is tolerable.

Personally, I’ll happily sew quarter size holes all day if it means not chasing cripples, digging em out of holes or brush, or watching coyotes run 50-100 yards before they pile up wondering if they’re going to pile up, meanwhile potentially costing me a second coyote. Chasing one cripple could easily eat up a half hour. I can sew a LOT of inches in a half hour and it’s a lot less work!

And blah blah blah, shot placement. Not all hits are perfect, especially on long ones and runners.

Not to mention, in the current market, it’s a $25 finished coyote AT BEST! Most aren’t even worth the sweat equity hauling them back to the truck!

One of my favorite coyote bullets was/is the Hornady 52 gr Amax. Now I’m not a coyote whisperer that some here are, but I’ve shot a little north of a hundred over the years with this bullet in my 22-250 and have been extremely happy with the results. I have not tried the eld line as when I heard they were to be discontinued I bought enough Amal’s to allow me and my great great grandchildren to shoot all we would want…. Anyone else like these? Or have experience with the elf’s. As a bonus, it shoots bugholes out of my 788 and Sako both.

I’ve been shooting the 108 ELD-Ms in my 6 Creedmoor and am just tickled pink with them!

Shot about 110 with them from 50 yards to 641 yards. Had one that ran about 50 yards and piled up, and another that was alive still but anchored on the spot. Everybody else has been dead in their tracks.

And, while I wouldn’t call them a “fur bullet”, surprisingly not horrible for damage.

I have shot piles of coyotes with the 55gr ballistic tip boat tails out of my .243 over a very long time. Now that I have pretty much switched to the .223 for personal reasons I expect the same version of bullet in a lighter weight but somewhat similar speed will produce just fine.
In the end they are coyotes. If you twitch or they move at the wrong time you catch an edge and none are fur friendly. Oh well.
As Boone says a stitch or two big deal.

Osky

The most fur friendly coyote bullet is a dozen traps and a Death Ray

Not to mention the ELD-Ms shoot pretty nice. That’s a 400 yard group. <1/2 MOA groups if you do your part.

NOT MY THREAD but if you will read bunches of comments. HE CAN"T use anything bigger at night than a 22 cal. 243 and up illegal !! HE DOES NOT CARE if it blows then into 3 pieces !! He wants them DRT NTR because some are during yote tournaments. ! Pretty sure most of his shots are under 200 yards.
Ballistic tips/ v-max- are good bullets . ANY bullet will kill under right conditions My and others point is what caliber and which cheap PROVEN for decades bullet should he try that will drop them and have some margin of error since he is shooting during night time conditions......
55 gr spitzer was my suggestion after decades of ground hog / fox/ yote killing. hornady 50 sx was my next and only fur friendly bullet I ever needed. But that was out of 222....and used entirely on foxes.

.204 Ruger
If you’re a fur collector, this cartridge is where it’s at. Introduced in 2004, it was created by necking the .222 Rem. Mag. case down to .20 caliber. Light 32-grain bullets exit the muzzle at a sizzling 4,225 fps. Heavier 40-grain projectiles head downrange at 3,900 fps. Either will turn a coyote’s lights out right now, but you do need to place your shots well, since there’s just not a lot of bullet weight to wreak havoc on marginal hits.

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This is an article pushing for the 204. NOTICE what the writer is saying. This is what the OP is trying to get away from since he is having the problem with his 223 ..

The splashing hit are why I sold my .204. Softball sized holes on the entry side of the coyotes. That was using the 32gr stock ammo. I don't reload. Also I bought the .204 so I shoot that 4225 fps. and see the hits through the scope. I was not interested in heavier bullets. I shoot .22-250 with 45gr white box Winchester HP ammo and it shoots just under 4000fps and very little fur damage on most shots from 20-265 yards. I hope I could locate a few more boxes of it in the next few years.

There is just no way a .204 can anchor coyotes as well as a 250 ballistically.

Thanks. I never have used those bidding sites unless there's a buy it now price. I may have to give it a try.

The goal is a dead coyote. IMHO the nosler is a better bullet than a vmax.

Only 5 hours left, give it a shot!

I agree

I only got splash hits with the 33 gr VMAX at4375 fps
You won't get that with other bullets