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Re: Putins ideology
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How many who posted on this thread have watched the video DItto It seem a little odd when people have the answer before they know the question.
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Re: Putins ideology
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02/28/23 08:51 PM
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It funny to me that the things Putin had to say in latest big speech are exactly what most conservative Christians in America want their own politicians to say. He even told his people that the govt of the Western nations have deceived and lied to their own people.
It's pretty bad when we have to hate the guy just cuz "America" when the scum running this country are the most un-American people on the planet. Heck even most of the illegals that come here want to be here not just for the benefits of the richest nation on earth falling into to socialism, but because they can actually be free. They love freedom. And would stand behind anyone who would grantee it for them.
We might be slated for servitude like the children of Israel because our rulers are more wicked than the opposition.
That being said I'm still not gonna go quietly, but I'm not dumb enough to think supporting the current world order and their plans for a WW3 for the destruction of America is worth supporting just because Putin comes from Russia. The red scare is over. They won, the world govt used it in the 50s-80s to build the now ruling world govt and they are gonna get that war because it's the only way to destroy this nation. Once it is over, we will all wish we had leaders willing to stand in a Christian foundation.
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Re: Putins ideology
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There is a transcript out that might be better for the ones who can't stomach the speech.
Matthew 7:6 KJV
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine....
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Re: Putins ideology
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Conservatives that support Russia because " Christian values"..... Lord have mercy Putin might claim those values but its apparent to anyone thats paid attention at all to pooty-poot is that he doesnt believe in anything other than his own power and that russia should rule the world. He does use big T Traditionalism as a way to get influence over certain groups that are easily infiltrated.
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Re: Putins ideology
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Ever wonder where the billions of $ being given to the Ukraine is going?
Think about it , if Putin really wanted to , this so called war would of been over long ago.
Maybe Putin is just leaking enough information for people to make up their own minds.
Not what NATO , or the UN wants people to believe .
Remember the deals Obama and Hillary made with Russia !
Putin knows just what he's doing.
That's why he liked Trump.
We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
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Re: Putins ideology
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02/28/23 10:01 PM
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Conservatives that support Russia because " Christian values"..... Lord have mercy Started the video you posted now, always like to hear other folks' take on it. The Story of Russia by Orlando Figes has some good commentary about why Russia does what it does as well. Christian Values? That concept has been so corrupted, diluted, and whored out by the political leaders, media, and mainstream churches, that many in this country don't even know what they are, or what it means. That does not make it so, though. The Word of God will stand forever, no matter what this country or Russia does. God will break nations that He once gave His grace upon. He will use their enemy to destroy them. That is both Biblical and historical Truth.
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Re: Putins ideology
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Conservatives that support Russia because " Christian values"..... Lord have mercy Yet anti Americans and certain past presidents and their secretary of state made deals with said evil , against our country's best interests ! And try to put the blame on someone that they were sure wouldn't beat the secretary of state that ran for President ! Strange how things work sometimes.LOL
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Re: Putins ideology
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I have been to Russia, after the annexation of Crimea, so I guess I have this firsthand insight to share. If you think you can speak freely in Russia when it comes to politics, that is because you have not been there. The difference between Russia and the US is real and palpable. I absolutely watched what I said there, as did all of my Russian acquaintances. And if you are about to say that Americans have to watch what they say also, you have not spent time in Russia. Here I can get on a forum like this and talk allllllll kinds of trash and proffer any viewpoint about basically any politician, policy, conflict, etc, and it is HIGHLY unlikely that I will be beat up, arrested, or worse. Meanwhile even back in 2016, before a full scale war (ahem, special military operation) started, I was cautioned against that by basically everyone - both Russians and American - that I met in Russia. Our embassy did a good job of making sure I knew the ropes upon arrival. I did feel very welcomed and accommodated by the Russian people and even government (other than a few Russian guards outside the embassy in St. Petersburg and the very first official I met when entering the country at customs - she was quite curt and had no use for politeness). Many Russians said “We are much the same, we should be friends.” It was odd because those people, most of whom were veterans or active military, would say that the Russian military was spoiling for a fight with us. They would openly say “we want to fight you!” referring to their military, all the while treating me personally very well and with respect as if they honestly liked me. The people of Russia are good and kind, but free to talk trash about the government to the same extent as Americans, that they are not - at least not without consequences beyond getting banned from a forum or something like that.
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Re: Putins ideology
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Interesting how the world political powers that be are orchestrating a war between the last two "so-called" Christian nations.
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Re: Putins ideology
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I have been to Russia, after the annexation of Crimea, so I guess I have this firsthand insight to share. If you think you can speak freely in Russia when it comes to politics, that is because you have not been there. The difference between Russia and the US is real and palpable. I absolutely watched what I said there, as did all of my Russian acquaintances. And if you are about to say that Americans have to watch what they say also, you have not spent time in Russia. Here I can get on a forum like this and talk allllllll kinds of trash and proffer any viewpoint about basically any politician, policy, conflict, etc, and it is HIGHLY unlikely that I will be beat up, arrested, or worse. Meanwhile even back in 2016, before a full scale war (ahem, special military operation) started, I was cautioned against that by basically everyone - both Russians and American - that I met in Russia. Our embassy did a good job of making sure I knew the ropes upon arrival. I did feel very welcomed and accommodated by the Russian people and even government (other than a few Russian guards outside the embassy in St. Petersburg and the very first official I met when entering the country at customs - she was quite curt and had no use for politeness). Many Russians said “We are much the same, we should be friends.” It was odd because those people, most of whom were veterans or active military, would say that the Russian military was spoiling for a fight with us. They would openly say “we want to fight you!” referring to their military, all the while treating me personally very well and with respect as if they honestly liked me. The people of Russia are good and kind, but free to talk trash about the government to the same extent as Americans, that they are not - at least not without consequences beyond getting banned from a forum or something like that. Interesting post. I was in Cuba in '99 and it was much the same way. Since I speak the language I was interested in people's attitude about their government and Fidel. They would look left and right and make sure no neighbors could overhear them before they would say anything negative. In fact they would not utter the word "Castro" for fear of being overheard. They would just stroke an imaginary beard to indicate who they were referring to. We Americans do take our freedoms granted by our open democracy for granted.
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Re: Putins ideology
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Interesting how the world political powers that be are orchestrating a war between the last two "so-called" Christian nations. The United States of America and Israel ?
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