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Liquid Stevia came today #7815825
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Contains No Erythritol I’m trying some now I’ll need to find the right mix not sure what I like the best yet, the sugar looking stuff comes pre measured in packets so that easier to measure VS counting drops I’ll need to find a easier way to measure it out. The liquid taste is not bad but flatter so far compared to the pre measured packets maybe the Erythritol added flavor? It takes the bitter edge off of the coffee I’ll keep trying more drops to see if it sweetens things up any.

I looked into the sugar like looking monk fruit sweetener for the heck of it and it has Erythritol added like Stevia to get that crystalized look to it. So not sure why the article targeted Stevia alone and not the additive they are concerned about. So did the mean the combo is bad it reads like Erythritol was the main concern from what I gathered.

Still better then using sugar a guy can only give up so much I’m going to use it until I hear more, with non sugar sweeteners becoming more popular it might just be a hit job either way the story was not well written. IMO Anybody know if eggs and butter are till good for us this week? LOL


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Most folks are are concerned about high cholesterol and are careful when consuming fatty foods,,,, but some still don’t know that too many carbohydrates are just as dangerous. Unused carbs raise triglyceride levels in the body,, which can lead to plauqe buildup as well. I have seriously cut the carbs out of my diet after learning how high my triglycerides were and that I have plaque buildup in my carotid artery and aorta and those arteries. I didn’t know until last fall I had all that going on.

I usually eat oatmeal, cheerios or bran flakes with orange juice for breakfast,,, and supper usually consists of chicken, turkey or fish… along with deer and beaver meat. Any thing that I want sweetened I use stevia. I had read that it’s believed stevia can also help reduce triglycerides.


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For coffee sweetner, the healthiest I've found is honey.

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Originally Posted by garart
For coffee sweetner, the healthiest I've found is honey.



Not the best for sugar levels they say.


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I get Sweet Leaf, in a liquid dropper bottle. 1 oz bottles with eye dropper to measure. They are flavoured with natural things, coconut, chocolate, vanilla cream, hazelnut, etc...and make my coffee perfect, and anything else.

Straight stevia , I really don't care for, but the Sweet Leaf with natural added flavours is the ticket for me.

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Yes if not for Stevia there would be donut crumbs everywhere.


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Got the cup about empty and gave it a few more drops to see if I could sweeten it up more and it did almost too sweet so at least I know what I’m working with here. I’ll try it with a fresh cup in the morning using a teaspoon to measure it out and go from there.


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I use raw honey to sweeten my tea and oatmeal.

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Originally Posted by Guss
I use raw honey to sweeten my tea and oatmeal.

which is good if you can process it , but a life of to many doughnuts and pasta has put the law dog and myself in a place were it is cut the sugar and carbs or start pumping syringes of insulin.

I went to just cream in my coffee


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I found a few fairly reliable sources that debunked the Erythritol scare. The study was bogus in fact its good for you. I am sure someone in the government or food industry started that rumor.

They dont want people to get healthy its bad for business, and their agenda. Thas why they are saying eat whole grains,oatmeal and brown rice to fight diabetes. That will make you diabetic for sure. Cut out all grains.
Remember what they did banning other forms of covid treatments right ?

Erythritol works great for people losing weight. I used it myself. Its supposed to made out of monk fruit. My only complaint is its from China.






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With the up and coming non chemical sweeteners becoming popular I’d expect the fake sweetener folks will start defending their markets more this could be the case. I thought that would happen sooner but my thought is the big companies are locked into purchase agreements they can’t back out of. Also if they wait it will look like they held back for safety reasons until it’s a proven product.

If it turns out to be safe for everyone it could change the food industry and the health of this overweight Nation. Would I take it if I could still eat sugar heck no I like me some sugar I’d still be hitting the donuts and cake meals. LOL


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Smaller companies are using stevia in their soft drinks. Zevia is an example. The cola and the root beer are good.


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Originally Posted by Law Dog
With the up and coming non chemical sweeteners becoming popular I’d expect the fake sweetener folks will start defending their markets more this could be the case. I thought that would happen sooner but my thought is the big companies are locked into purchase agreements they can’t back out of. Also if they wait it will look like they held back for safety reasons until it’s a proven product.

If it turns out to be safe for everyone it could change the food industry and the health of this overweight Nation. Would I take it if I could still eat sugar heck no I like me some sugar I’d still be hitting the donuts and cake meals. LOL

Strolling thru Walmart, I don't think there's a large % of folks who really care about their overall health. That takes a certain amount of self-discipline. I tip my hat to anyone who has it. As for myself, I'd like to gain a few pounds. I weighed in at 171 last trip to the Dr and I told them their scale is off........I ain't never weighed that much! As it was I had my clod-hoppers on which added about 5# to my honest weight.


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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Originally Posted by Law Dog
With the up and coming non chemical sweeteners becoming popular I’d expect the fake sweetener folks will start defending their markets more this could be the case. I thought that would happen sooner but my thought is the big companies are locked into purchase agreements they can’t back out of. Also if they wait it will look like they held back for safety reasons until it’s a proven product.

If it turns out to be safe for everyone it could change the food industry and the health of this overweight Nation. Would I take it if I could still eat sugar heck no I like me some sugar I’d still be hitting the donuts and cake meals. LOL

Strolling thru Walmart, I don't think there's a large % of folks who really care about their overall health. That takes a certain amount of self-discipline. I tip my hat to anyone who has it. As for myself, I'd like to gain a few pounds. I weighed in at 171 last trip to the Dr and I told them their scale is off........I ain't never weighed that much! As it was I had my clod-hoppers on which added about 5# to my honest weight.


Some people have no choice is the biggest problem the ones your talking about will get there if they make it.


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Is it possible to use pure maple syrup? A natural sugar so I understand dose not effect the body like processed sugars?

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If you are trying to cut carbs out of your diet the breakfast you listed is about as bad as it can get. ALL of those are carbs which are turned into glucose (after eating), orange juice is full of sugar. Read the label.

Bacon and eggs would be better. No insulin spike.

For all of you folks that mention honey or maple syrup........it's all sugar. I agree, they taste great. Occasionally as a treat might be ok, but not every day.

If anyone is attempting to get better blood test results, i.e. Hb A1c and IR numbers you need to look at the number of carbs and the listing of sugar content on EVERY label.

As many cardiologists recommend, if it has more that 7 grams of sugar, don't eat it.

And stay under 130 grams of carbs per day max. Under 80 would be a lot better. Add more fat to your diet.

Use butter like our grandparents did, whole milk (which really isn't WHOLE milk anymore), leave the fat on the meat. Bacon ain't going to kill ya. Sugar will.

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Every day I use Stevia (powdered) from Trader Joes. It's $9.99 I think and lasts me about 6 months if I use it only in coffee/tea. It better be 100% Stevia. I've used it for many years now.

Picture below is from the Internet, but it's the one I use.

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Tried to measure with a tea spoon today way to sweet 1/2 a tea spoon was way to much poured out 1/2 of that added more coffee to the cup it’s better but I will cut way back on the next cup and see does not take much liquid Stevia.

The honey and maple syrup will spike your sugar orange juice will also with oranges your digesting the pulp of the fruit but pure juice your not slowing digestion your speeding things up.

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Why not stop drinking coffee if you don't like the way it tastes? Maybe try a different brand of coffee or a little less grounds?


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Originally Posted by MJM
Why not stop drinking coffee if you don't like the way it tastes? Maybe try a different brand of coffee or a little less grounds?


I like my coffee I go to bed thinking about waking up to it. LOL Just trying to adjust the Stevia mix is all this liquid is a whole different ratio that I’m trying to work out.


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I read a good bit on the last post about Stevia, what about Sweet-N Low? Good bad
I was using Stevia Kroger Brand ? until I read the box and it contained that additive you all mentioned then I was like what the heck?

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Originally Posted by Thumb Catcher
I read a good bit on the last post about Stevia, what about Sweet-N Low? Good bad
I was using Stevia Kroger Brand ? until I read the box and it contained that additive you all mentioned then I was like what the heck?



Watch that first video on the first page the hype is not what the article said it was it was just a far fetched story not backed by real research. Sweet and low is a chemical mixture lots of better options out there. Spend some time on YouTube for opinions from doctors in that field and the impact on your sugar levels.


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Law Dog do you ration your coffee? You only get one two two cups a day? Is coffee bad for you or is it what is added to it? I can't say I ever went to bed thinking about co0ffeew in the morning. But if I am drinking coffee and want more I get it, even if it means making another pot.


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Maple syrup and Honey caused huge Spikes in my glucose levels when I substituted them for sugar. Pretty much Monk fruit for me now.

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Originally Posted by MJM
Law Dog do you ration your coffee? You only get one two two cups a day? Is coffee bad for you or is it what is added to it? I can't say I ever went to bed thinking about co0ffeew in the morning. But if I am drinking coffee and want more I get it, even if it means making another pot.


1 1/2 to 2 cups a day for me I can’t drink it after 6PM it keeps me up at bed time. I do things in moderation now after to many years of thinking I was bulletproof and was not. LOL


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I guess I don't think I am bullet proof, I just figure everyone dies. From what I have seen, people cause as much grief trying to be healthy, as they do just living. Moderation is good, but if it is to the point of craving, it may not be moderation. What is good for you and what is bad? It just depends on who you want to believe.


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For reference, The teaspoon equivalent for the powdered version is tiny. They give you a little plastic spoon inside the bottle. The recommended serving size of the powdered is 45mg, which to me has translated essentially to 1 teaspoon. Easy to measure with their little plastic spoon.


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They use the Erythritol to get Stevia and monk fruit to look like sugar. From the video it looks like Erythritol has benefits and that study was questionable at best.


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when we talk cups of coffee are we talking actual 6 ounce demi cups or more like a 16 oz travel mug?

which is actually 2 2/3 cups of coffee

for me I am more like 2 travel mugs at 16oz each , no sugar or sweetener just cream.

when you get away from sweeteners it becomes incredible how sweet things start to taste most things people talk about being sweet are way too sweet now.

I don't do much other than a little whole fruit now when I want sweet.
a few black berries or an apple , pears in season all so sweet the don't need any more


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Just a note on the Trader Joes powder I posted, for reference in case anyone interested:

I saw this on their reddit page. I wouldn't take it for gospel-anything since I didn't talk to them myself, or do I know if this page is official correspondence; but seems to make sense:

"Thank you for the inquiry on our Organic Liquid Stevia (sku 50695) . To preface: we do NOT allow artificial ingredients in our products; this includes Erythritol (a synthetically derived sugar alcohol).

The Organic Liquid Stevia (sku 50695) uses organic sugar cane as the alcohol processing aid. In addition; the Organic Stevia powder (sku 68557) uses organic cassava maltodextrin as a processing aid (this is a very, very small amount, far less than 2%, so it is not required to be on the product label)."


Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/traderjoes/comments/11eepzp/stevia_drops_and_powder_at_tjs_no_erythritol/


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Originally Posted by MJM
I guess I don't think I am bullet proof, I just figure everyone dies. From what I have seen, people cause as much grief trying to be healthy, as they do just living. Moderation is good, but if it is to the point of craving, it may not be moderation. What is good for you and what is bad? It just depends on who you want to believe.



Until you have skin in the game talk like that is easy. I’m not afraid of dying I’m afraid of living too long while being unhealthy or blinded by what I could of prevented. I had a good run eating as stupid as I wanted for way longer than most had done. I can eat like an adult now it’s not the end coming to soon. If life was like a kitchen timer I’d still be eating sugar maybe but visit a few nursing homes and I’d rather go out like a light bulb is my hope.

I hunt with guys 10-15 years younger than me and they complain a lot because they can’t keep up so I’m on the right track.


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Jerry, Stevia can be used not only in coffee, but in anything that needs a touch of sweet. Even in adult beverages . Preparing desserts.

I bet even in using some medications that tase bitter.

I always use it in my coffee too . The natural flavors put into the brand I like, dresses up my coffee nicely, without the sugar content.

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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Originally Posted by MJM
I guess I don't think I am bullet proof, I just figure everyone dies. From what I have seen, people cause as much grief trying to be healthy, as they do just living. Moderation is good, but if it is to the point of craving, it may not be moderation. What is good for you and what is bad? It just depends on who you want to believe.



Until you have skin in the game talk like that is easy. I’m not afraid of dying I’m afraid of living too long while being unhealthy or blinded by what I could of prevented. I had a good run eating as stupid as I wanted for way longer than most had done. I can eat like an adult now it’s not the end coming to soon. If life was like a kitchen timer I’d still be eating sugar maybe but visit a few nursing homes and I’d rather go out like a light bulb is my hope.

I hunt with guys 10-15 years younger than me and they complain a lot because they can’t keep up so I’m on the right track.

Haha, Law Dog, I tell the youngsters they may outrun me, but I’ll walk them in the ground!!

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