Fort Drum Co-Gen Plant shut down.
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Today was the last day that Fort Drums co- generation plant will purchase woody biomass to generate their electricity. It is the only military base in the USA that produces its own electricity. Politicians ruled in 2019 that woody biomass is not a renewable resource so that was the death knell for the plant. Re Energy , the company that runs the biomass fueled electric generating facility on the base, will burn their inventory of wood chips and sawdust, and in May will shut down. Then Fort Drum will get their power from the electrical grid. Well over 300 jobs will be directly and many more indirectly, affected at the plant and the local forest industry. Also, this will hamper the local forest industry to practice proven Silvicultural concepts on northern NY forests. , because there are few other markets for woodchips generated from low grade trees and their tops.
It’s been 50 years since I was in Forestry school, I guess according to politicians, mostly Democrats, a tree is no longer a renewable resource.
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Re: Fort Drum Co-Gen Plant shut down.
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Our local paper mill is shutting down in may/June. Over 1k jobs at the mill! K telling how many loads of chips go in there a day.
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Re: Fort Drum Co-Gen Plant shut down.
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Woody biomass is not a renewable energy resource? It's one of the best renewable resources there is. A tree harvests and stores solar energy. Combined with a high efficiency wood burning appliance, like a rocket mass heater, as good as it gets. An acre of black locust could probably heat the average home forever.
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Re: Fort Drum Co-Gen Plant shut down.
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Woody biomass is not a renewable energy resource? It's one of the best renewable resources there is. A tree harvests and stores solar energy. Combined with a high efficiency wood burning appliance, like a rocket mass heater, as good as it gets. An acre of black locust could probably heat the average home forever. But windmills and solar panel farms are so much nicer. (Sarc)
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Re: Fort Drum Co-Gen Plant shut down.
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Today was the last day that Fort Drums co- generation plant will purchase woody biomass to generate their electricity. It is the only military base in the USA that produces its own electricity. Politicians ruled in 2019 that woody biomass is not a renewable resource so that was the death knell for the plant. Re Energy , the company that runs the biomass fueled electric generating facility on the base, will burn their inventory of wood chips and sawdust, and in May will shut down. Then Fort Drum will get their power from the electrical grid. Well over 300 jobs will be directly and many more indirectly, affected at the plant and the local forest industry. Also, this will hamper the local forest industry to practice proven Silvicultural concepts on northern NY forests. , because there are few other markets for woodchips generated from low grade trees and their tops.
It’s been 50 years since I was in Forestry school, I guess according to politicians, mostly Democrats, a tree is no longer a renewable resource. The state would lock up all forest if they could. Dec's forestry Dept doesn't hire Foresters but resource "managers". Sad day for forest management in NY.
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Re: Fort Drum Co-Gen Plant shut down.
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Those political post turtles would not recognize a renewable energy source if it kicked them in the groin
Let's go Brandon
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Re: Fort Drum Co-Gen Plant shut down.
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This is what Happens when a Mentally challenged President Hair Sniffer gets frauded in.
God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
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Re: Fort Drum Co-Gen Plant shut down.
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Gee I'd of thought they would replace that environmental nightmare with windmills and solarpanels
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Re: Fort Drum Co-Gen Plant shut down.
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Gee I'd of thought they would replace that environmental nightmare with windmills and solarpanels Not sure what you mean ? Burning woody biomass is close to carbon neutral, and a market for wood chips from unacceptable tree growing stock , is a means to properly manage a forest. Which in turn creates a healthy vigorously growing forest that sequester even more carbon.
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Re: Fort Drum Co-Gen Plant shut down.
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They are going to replace it with a Hydro plant on the Black river. Good luck with that, you think the enviro' will allow that to be built?
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Re: Fort Drum Co-Gen Plant shut down.
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They are going to replace it with a Hydro plant on the Black river. They already have one at Glen Park, good luck ever getting approval for another.
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Gee I'd of thought they would replace that environmental nightmare with windmills and solarpanels Not sure what you mean ? Burning woody biomass is close to carbon neutral, and a market for wood chips from unacceptable tree growing stock , is a means to properly manage a forest. Which in turn creates a healthy vigorously growing forest that sequester even more carbon. Exactly Squash, but facts are meaningless to the anti energy crew.
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