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Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: Wanna Be] #7831267
03/27/23 09:50 PM
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Shock springs are NOT for everyone or every situation. How many on here have run = Shock springs where a trapper is —- allowed long check times???? With a 30 inch chain and shock spring and multiple swivels. The coyotes can lay down and get comfortable. How many have = rolled up on multiple coyotes laying down and asleep ???

Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: ] #7831327
03/27/23 10:58 PM
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Agree with others, one more thing to hassle with. Frozen ground is hard enough to work in without having to bury a shock spring as well.

Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: Bob Jameson] #7831352
03/27/23 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Jameson
I have never used a shock spring in my lifetime. I know how the device works. In my experience it is just something else I have to bury, add weight and cost to your set up. Nothing wrong with those wanting to add them to your system. The longer your chain set up is, the more benefit it will have. For medium length cable/chain set ups I see no need.



Depends if you are selling the animal alive or 'reducing it to possession, right on the spot , or until the dog down the street from where you're trapping wanders off and finds your set.
Just my opinion, but I want every advantage I can to not damage that animal's foot in the trap. Long chain or short.
Heck, I've added a double trap swivel to the D-ring on the baseplate, a stop shock and then another double trap swivel and a cable stake. Never even had a chain. . .

Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: LT GREY] #7831371
03/27/23 11:56 PM
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Main thing for me ?? Is the coyotes be in the trap when I get their!! Take. For example. Montana. Nevada. And Wyoming. 3 to 5 day check times. IF you catch = a breed female OR a big male OR one of those = bad trap fighters. Without shock spring they want be their in 3 days. That is NOT exceptable in sheep country

Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: ] #7831383
03/28/23 12:21 AM
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I've never ran shock springs. But I can say I live in a three day check state, and there is a huge difference in traps on foot damage. Some traps I can have coyotes in for three days and never leave a mark, others not so much. And, if the trap is the wrong size, designed for a different animal they can be pretty hard on feet.

Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: ] #7831558
03/28/23 08:49 AM
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Bearcat2, can you elaborate on your observations on what you’ve seen as being the best and worst on those long checks?

Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: steeltraps] #7831569
03/28/23 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by steeltraps
Shock springs are NOT for everyone or every situation. How many on here have run = Shock springs where a trapper is —- allowed long check times???? With a 30 inch chain and shock spring and multiple swivels. The coyotes can lay down and get comfortable. How many have = rolled up on multiple coyotes laying down and asleep ???


Great point. Most of us have never had the opportunity to run springs in all possible scenarios so our knowledge is limited.


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Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: warrior] #7831694
03/28/23 11:23 AM
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Thanks Warrior. I am lucky. Get to trap lots of places. In West Texas now. But all I seam to be able to catch today is hogs ! LoL!

Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: steeltraps] #7831697
03/28/23 11:27 AM
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Bout 80 lbs is my guess. LPC 3 & 1/2 and 8 ft chain and drag. BUT still went 1/4 mile ! Bobbed and weved threw the brush for a minute

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Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: ] #7832061
03/28/23 06:29 PM
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Targeted or incidental?

I'd imagine they could haul a load deep into the brush. They're built like tanks.


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Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: warrior] #7832175
03/28/23 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Targeted or incidental?

I'd imagine they could haul a load deep into the brush. They're built like tanks.

EVERYTHING is on the hit list here! If it ant cows or game the owners want = It has to go! LoL!

Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: ] #7832178
03/28/23 08:35 PM
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Badger Are not wanted for sure with horses and cows !!

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Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: steeltraps] #7832181
03/28/23 08:37 PM
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Grey fox. Eat the quail.

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Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: steeltraps] #7832184
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Lots of big game here.

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Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: steeltraps] #7832185
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^^*** was told that was a = Big One ?

Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: steeltraps] #7832205
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Originally Posted by steeltraps
^^*** was told that was a = Big One ?

Yes that is a fine pronghorn !

Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: Slipknot] #7832243
03/28/23 09:31 PM
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I have seen = Elk. Mule Deer. Pronghorn. Whitetail and Audad so far.

Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: ] #7832247
03/28/23 09:32 PM
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I guess we are done talking shock springs grin

Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: Yes sir] #7832271
03/28/23 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
I guess we are done talking shock springs grin

Sorry. Got carried away. I need to start a new thread. BUT every thing I caught was on = Shock Springs ! LoL’

Re: Do Shock Springs Help Prevent [Re: sportsman94] #7832626
03/29/23 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sportsman94
Bearcat2, can you elaborate on your observations on what you’ve seen as being the best and worst on those long checks?


I'm no expert, so I can just say some of what I've observed. The absolute worst traps on coyote feet that I've seen are not designed for coyotes, those are modified TS85s. They don't damage their intended targets feet, but are terrible on any incidental coyotes. From what I have observed, cast jaws or wide laminated jaws with rounded edges and narrow offsets seem to produce the least damage. You want some offset, if you don't have enough offset to allow decent blood flow the foot will go numb and they may chew on it, also in the colder areas it will freeze if you don't have enough blood flow. Too much offset and the coyote can slide their foot around a little, which will cause damage. This is where the argument between center swiveled and side swiveled emerges, because if the chain is attached to the side of the trap the coyote will pull its foot up tight to the opposite edge of the jaws and not move it any more, whereas a center swiveled trap he can slide it back and forth causing more damage, but a properly offset trap or close jawed, where his foot never slides at all and the center swivel will cause less damage with the straight pull than the side swiveled trap. A big heavy trap can cause more damage with them fighting it, but from my observations some big heavy traps do, and other even bigger, heavier traps do not. If you are trapping where you are targeting or may catch multiple species it is going to be tough to pick the right trap. A couple swivels close to the trap help a lot, swivels on down a long chain don't seem to do a lot, in my experience.

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