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Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: Osagan] #7830472
03/26/23 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Osagian
Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Sure do wish Colorado's other politicians were more like Boebert!!!!!

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Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: danny clifton] #7830475
03/26/23 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
She hit the nail on the head. Release wolves and eliminate the need for hunting to control big game. When the deer elk and bison have been severely curtailed and wolves have no choice but eat livestock, why thats good too. Eliminate bovine flatulence. Go green. Go vegan. When they prey on humans thats good too as humans are a parasitic species destroying mother earth

I think you may have THOUGHT you were being Sarcastic but you actually hit the nail on the head when it comes to Leftist Mentality!!!


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: warrior] #7830477
03/26/23 11:19 PM
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Wisconsin Farmers are facing the same thing. Leftist Tree Huggers got wolves released up there and it was SUPPOSED to be governed and monitored closely. Tell that to a Dairy Farmer thats whole livlihood depends on their Cows that the Tree Huggers want the wolves to eat.


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: warrior] #7830530
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Tree Huggers even tried to sue the Indians for shooting them on the Reservation. The funny thing is the Judge even admitted he could do nothing about it since their TRIBAL LAWS on the Reservation over ride Tree Huggers whining and Crying. That is why some people in Wisconsin let Indians shoot them on their Farms and DRAG them beck to the Reservation where they then claim it as a legal kill and hang it like we do deer in our yards. One Smartbut even shot one and threw it in the back of a Semi Trailer while the driver was sleeping. That happened at a rest area along Hwy 41 in Northern Wisconsin and through the Tracking Collar they caught the driver between Milwaukee and Chicago. Still haven't caught the guy who killed it.


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: warrior] #7830562
03/27/23 05:45 AM
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Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: walleye101] #7830579
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by Trapper7
This should be left up to the states to decide whether or not to hunt or trap wolves.


Everything you said made sense until you got to the final sentence. When you say left up to the state to decide, in Minnesota that means our Governor Waltz.

I think you nailed it. Even ultra conservative states like WY have struggled to keep the wolves delisted. It seems like it should be a no Brainerd. In Roman's chapter one Paul talks about a reprobate mind, and one thing he mentions in, they worship the creation over the Creator. The Creator Gave man Dominion over the animals and part of that would be to manage them wisely you would think.


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Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: warrior] #7830589
03/27/23 07:31 AM
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Alaska has been able to work an intensive predator control program for at least a decade. The intent of the program is to preserve moose, caribou, and deer populations for the consumptive use of Alaskans.
https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=intensivemanagement.programs

Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: walleye101] #7830772
03/27/23 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by Trapper7
This should be left up to the states to decide whether or not to hunt or trap wolves.


Everything you said made sense until you got to the final sentence. When you say left up to the state to decide, in Minnesota that means our Governor Waltz.

You're right about that. Walz is a not sportsmen-friendly. He always supports the radical left.


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Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: AntiGov] #7830853
03/27/23 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
In Oregon we have a game called " Odfw knows best "

You didn't see the wolf you just saw if it wasn't first documented by a government official

They try to convince the public that there are only a few small packs around the state and they are all accounted for , named , monitored , and managed . Just move along , nothing to see here


Way more wolves than the fake numbers we're given , and they are killing everything.



Not to change the subject, but lions need to be added to this. Wolves haven't reached the numbers of lions yet. Will be nothing left but them in short order.


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Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: bfflobo] #7830869
03/27/23 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bfflobo
Originally Posted by AntiGov
In Oregon we have a game called " Odfw knows best "

You didn't see the wolf you just saw if it wasn't first documented by a government official

They try to convince the public that there are only a few small packs around the state and they are all accounted for , named , monitored , and managed . Just move along , nothing to see here


Way more wolves than the fake numbers we're given , and they are killing everything.



Not to change the subject, but lions need to be added to this. Wolves haven't reached the numbers of lions yet. Will be nothing left but them in short order.



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Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: warrior] #7830938
03/27/23 02:40 PM
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The endangered species act that Nixon signed has been being used nefariously by people of every political persuasion over the decades. It needs to be repealed or fixed.

Wolves have decimated deer herds in places. They obviously need management. That will be difficult with the ESA.


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Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: AntiGov] #7830957
03/27/23 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
In Oregon we have a game called " Odfw knows best "

You didn't see the wolf you just saw if it wasn't first documented by a government official

They try to convince the public that there are only a few small packs around the state and they are all accounted for , named , monitored , and managed . Just move along , nothing to see here


Way more wolves than the fake numbers we're given , and they are killing everything.


25 years ago at one of the DNR meetings I went to, they estimated the number of wolves to be around 3500. Since that time there has been only 2 open, limited seasons. Last I heard the DNR estimates the number at 2800. With basically no predators and nothing to impede their population, in 25 years their population has been reduced? They are insulting our intelligence with a statement like that!


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Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: warrior] #7831074
03/27/23 05:23 PM
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But that’s what we got guberment trappers for. Maybe one of you smart interweb guys can find how many wolves they kill. Should be public info…emphasis on should be.

Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: Muskeg] #7831078
03/27/23 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Muskeg
But that’s what we got guberment trappers for. Maybe one of you smart interweb guys can find how many wolves they kill. Should be public info…emphasis on should be.



Word is that the government trappers in Minnesota kill around 250 wolves a year.

Wolf management should be a state issue but the endangered species act put an end to that. The ESA is generally a good thing and has brought several species back from the brink of extinction so it works, but there are some problems, one is the issue of taking wildlife management out of state hands, and the other is that the anti's have figured out how to use their deep pockets to use it as a weapons against wildlife conservation.

Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: warrior] #7831184
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wolves were NEVER endangered. canada and alaska are both filled with them


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Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: danny clifton] #7831469
03/28/23 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
wolves were NEVER endangered. canada and alaska are both filled with them


Exactly. ESA stands for endangered SPECIES act, not an endangered sub population that happens to exist in low abundance across a geogrphic government boundary act. See Lynx in Northeastern MN.

But that is part of the problem when it is reduced to a state issue.

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Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: warrior] #7831540
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Personally, I’d like to have wolves around. Along with all kinds of critters. I love hunting and trapping. Completely understand why in reality we don’t want wolves, it’s a back door move to eliminate/restrict legal hunting and trapping. The public has been brainwashed, Disneyfied. And most if not all anti’s are pet people. You know doggie dad’s and mom’s. Pets are family…right? I cringe when I hear that nonsense. Rescue dog people are the worst. Russ Carmen wrote a book about this. Pets are the new religion. Read it. And stop referring to your pets as your family. That’s anti language…verbatim.

Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: tomahawker] #7831683
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Originally Posted by tomahawker
Personally, I’d like to have wolves around. Along with all kinds of critters. I love hunting and trapping. Completely understand why in reality we don’t want wolves,......


Nonsense.........Managing wolves does not mean eliminating wolves, just managing their populations to desirable levels and utilizing surplus production. That's what responsible management is.

Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: walleye101] #7831701
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by tomahawker
Personally, I’d like to have wolves around. Along with all kinds of critters. I love hunting and trapping. Completely understand why in reality we don’t want wolves,......


Nonsense.........Managing wolves does not mean eliminating wolves, just managing their populations to desirable levels and utilizing surplus production. That's what responsible management is.

Exactly.


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Re: Why isn't wolf control a state issue? [Re: mad_mike] #7831713
03/28/23 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mad_mike
Alaska has been able to work an intensive predator control program for at least a decade. The intent of the program is to preserve moose, caribou, and deer populations for the consumptive use of Alaskans.
https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=intensivemanagement.programs


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